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    mazal77
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    We are trying to plan a chol Hamoed trip and wanted to know if anyone went to the “Ripleys Believe it or Not” attraction. Do you know if this is okay for Kohanim to come to? Are there Human Remains. Also, does the American Museum of Natural History have the same issues? Any information would be helpful.

    #1071116
    WolfishMusings
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    Why not call Ripley’s and ask them if they have any human remains among their exhibits?

    (Times Square) 212-398-3133.

    As for the MONH, I’m almost certain that they have human remains either on display or stored in their archives. Whether or not it’s a problem for Kohanim, AYLOR.

    The Wolf

    #1071117
    mazal77
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    Thank you for the information!!

    #1071118
    Wisey
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    Can’t you assume that rov bodies are goyim and therefore not mitameh biohel? I heard that this is the heter for medical students to dissect bodies and not be concerned of nevul hamess.

    #1071119
    screwdriverdelight
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    It’s a ??’ ???”? ????”? if we pasken that ???? are ???? ???? and we’re ?????.

    #1071120
    Patur Aval Assur
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    #1071121
    Patur Aval Assur
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    R’ Chaim Hirchenson in Malki Bakodesh chelek 3 utilized that sevara to be matir.

    R’ Moshe strongly opposed kohanim studying medicine:

    http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=920&st=&pgnum=426

    R’ Benzion Uziel would seem to disagree with R’ Moshe on the pikuach nefesh aspect:

    http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1288&st=&pgnum=235

    #1071122
    screwdriverdelight
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    PAA, if that was in response to Wisey, he wasn’t talking about kohanim in medical school (for which there’s absolutely no ?? to be ????, as ??? is ???? ??”?) but for anyone, and to not be ???? ?????? ???.

    #1071123
    Joseph
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    Why not call Ripley’s and ask them if they have any human remains among their exhibits?

    If the secretary answering the phone responds in the negative, how could you be certain you could rely on the accuracy of her response?

    #1071124
    TheGoq
    Participant

    Joseph that remains to be seen.

    #1071125
    bb123
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    MONH claims to have human remains (bones/ skeletons, skulls). You can see some on their website. It looks like some of them are not in cases and are on open display.

    Ripleys has multiple locations. I have heard that they are all pretty much the same. I was at one location many years ago that had a shrunken skull collection. If they are real, then you probably can’t go there as well.

    #1071126
    Patur Aval Assur
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    scared driver delight:

    I misread wisey’s post. I thought he was talking about kohanim so I pointed out that R’ Hirschenson used that sevara as part of a heter for kohanim to go to medical school:

    http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1544&st=&pgnum=194&hilite=

    Since I thought we were discussing kohanim, I noted that R’ Moshe was vehemently opposed to kohanim going to medical school. In that teshuva he says that pikuach nefesh is not a sevara. So I then quoted R’ Uziel who seems to disagree on that point.

    #1071127
    WolfishMusings
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    If the secretary answering the phone responds in the negative, how could you be certain you could rely on the accuracy of her response?

    Because I’d be willing to bet that the person answering the public phone number on their website would have to be familiar with the exhibits as, no doubt, lots of people call about them.

    And, if the person answering the phone is not sure, then by all means, ask to be passed on to someone who would know.

    The Wolf

    #1071128
    Wisey
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    I see the Rambam’s shitah lihokil in hilchos tumass mess 1-13 but where is the Ravad machmir?

    #1071129
    Toi
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    i was there yesterday they def have at least a mummy and shrunken head. more then that i dont remember.

    #1071130
    screwdriverdelight
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    Wisey-you’re right. It’s the ??”?, not the ???”?. See ???”? ???? ??? ??? ?.

    #1071131

    i just called them and they said they have human shrunken heads and a mummified human arm

    #1071132
    screwdriverdelight
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    The exhibits are probably in their own ??? so it wouldn’t present a problem, anyway.

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