October 10, 2010 1:56 pm at 1:56 pm #592575reenmasheenMember
whats the everybody’s opinion on bochurim going on road trips bain hazmanim? should the ideal bochur go on one?October 10, 2010 2:22 pm at 2:22 pm #699770popa_bar_abbaParticipant
No. The ideal bochur knows road trips are a waste of time. You should sign up for credit cards and get miles so you can just fly somewhere.October 10, 2010 2:35 pm at 2:35 pm #699771WIYMember
You asked for it. The “ideal” Bocher will be very Makpid not to be Oiver on Bittul Torah and will never go on a road trip. If you mean an ideal “chiller” bochur then yes, an ideal chiller would go on a road trip.October 10, 2010 2:38 pm at 2:38 pm #699772reenmasheenMember
i hear but i’m saying the whole idea of a tripOctober 10, 2010 2:47 pm at 2:47 pm #699773
Wasn’t the whole point of Bain Hazmanim so that you can have some time off, and not have such an intense schedule?
Use the time to your discretion. If you enjoy driving and scenery, I think thats a pretty Kosher outlet for Bochrim who usually have pretty packed schedules.
As someone who enjoys traveling I think its a great idea. We live in a beautiful country and there is much to see.October 10, 2010 2:59 pm at 2:59 pm #699774WIYMember
Road trips can be a lot of fun, just plan well if you want to have a good time, you need to know where to eat sleep and daven plus interesting things to do in all the places you pass.
Just keep in mind that the Yetzer Hora loves bein hazmanim and I know plenty of Bachurim who “ended” up in inappropriate places because one or 2 guys on the trip were bad apples who made sure they went to some places that a Ben Torah should never go.October 10, 2010 8:04 pm at 8:04 pm #699775popa_bar_abbaParticipant
My last 3 bein hazmanim trips:
Backpacking yellowstone and Grand Tetons, 9 days. 50,000 AA points and about $250. (Not including equipment purchased.)
Snowboarding in Salt lake city, 5 days pesach time. $1000, 20,000 marriott points, 4,000 starpoints.
Backpacking, hiking and fishing in Alaska, 12 days. $50,000 AA points, $700. (Not including equipment purchased.
All self financed.
Road trips are for girls.October 10, 2010 9:22 pm at 9:22 pm #699776
Popa – Save for Alaska, Salt Lake City and Wyoming are both accessible by car, last time I checked.
Any p’tchech can fly… which I’ll admit I do.October 10, 2010 9:26 pm at 9:26 pm #699777so rightMember
Alaska is no less accessible (just a long ride) by car, than Wyoming and Salt Lake City (which are long drives themselves, from NY.)October 10, 2010 9:38 pm at 9:38 pm #699778
You can hit Alaska by driving, to actually get anywhere of interest (even within Alaska) you need an airplane or boat.
But yes, you are correct in that you can get to Alaska by driving.October 11, 2010 2:20 pm at 2:20 pm #699779bptParticipant
I encouraged my sons to go on road trips, but put my foot down on one point; they needed to daven with minyan every day (over shabbos was not an issue, so we did not discuss guidlines for that)
I needed to be realistic. By the time a bocher is 20+, he needs to be getting some wings.
And yes, I think a bocher that learns hard and puts in the hours 10-11 months a year, is entitled to “chill” every now and then. I do, and so should he.October 11, 2010 6:27 pm at 6:27 pm #699780ChossonMember
Right on BP Totty
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