February 24, 2019 10:09 pm at 10:09 pm #1684647
Why do they call multiple times in one day for the same tzedakah? It is very annoying, you push 9, a voice comes on stating that the number is on the “NO CALL LIST”, and half hour later, again! Can’t this be stopped?
Even if one already contributed, they still keep calling. It turns us off contributing. The minute I hear their shpiel, I slam down the phone. Does ANYONE heed these appeals?February 24, 2019 10:20 pm at 10:20 pm #1684668
How do they get phone numbers of frum people?February 24, 2019 11:18 pm at 11:18 pm #1684677
How do they get phone numbers of frum people?
Joseph, is that a retorical question?
Last i checked, jewish non for profits pay big bux for lists!February 24, 2019 11:19 pm at 11:19 pm #1684674
Most of these robo calls are g’neyvass dass and g’neyvass zmannFebruary 24, 2019 11:19 pm at 11:19 pm #1684675
“How do they get the phone numbers of frum people??”
Unfortunately, frum yidden are no more immune to the same issues as the general population. Many frum mosdos such as shuls and yeshivos maintain contact listings with names, addresses and phone numbers for members, students etc. Also, fund raising groups frequently exchange or sell their mailing lists with the telephone numbers of those who have previously donated. Even some frum businesses keep ohone listings of customers which are not always maintained on a confidential basis.February 25, 2019 8:10 am at 8:10 am #1684716
Do people actually give out their credit card info to some anonymous caller claiming to be from organization X, which you probably never even heard of? It seems obvious, yet when I explain to telemarketers that I can’t donate in that manner, they always seem surprised.February 25, 2019 8:10 am at 8:10 am #1684734
“Even some frum businesses keep phone listings of customers which are not always maintained on a confidential basis.”
I am at check out of the food store buying a milk container, before the check out lady rings up my items, her first question, “What is your phone number?” Morei v’Rabbosei, I am only buying a container of milk, why does she need my phone number? It’s not like I am buying a firearm and explosives. It’s a harmless container of milk!
Other stores ask for my email address. They make it as if I can’t buy the scotch tape unless I give them my email address!
Now don’t get me wrong, I am a polite person and if someone asks for my phone number or email, I would give it to them, but why is it that if I ask back the check out lady for HER phone number, she says, “I am not allowed to give it out”. A bit of a double standard, don’t you think?!
Now for singles, I think they should not just simply give their phone number, but their entire shidduch resume, starting with a list of yeshivas / seminaries they were at, the shul they belong to…like, if the store needs to know info about the customer, let the store use it to start a data base of shidduch info…but I am not in shidduchim, so why does it need my personal info…
What if the store asks for date of birth, employment history, banking info, famiiy size…? At what point would you say, “Genug shoin! Just hand me an application form and I will fill it so that I can buy my milk!”?February 25, 2019 8:16 am at 8:16 am #1684732
Charities are not bound by the Federal Do Not Call regulations,
same as politicians running for office or any company you have ever done business with
Too many exceptionsFebruary 25, 2019 9:13 am at 9:13 am #1684812
Even if they actually obey their own do-not-call list, it is usually separate from the “queued calls” list. It will continue calling you until the queue completes.February 25, 2019 11:37 am at 11:37 am #1684934
The little I knowParticipant
I am personally disturbed from my work countless times a day at work with these calls. Because of the nature of my work, I try to answer calls unless I already know they are spam. I am comforted in knowing that there is a G-d, and that the pain they inflict on me for disturbing my work will get paid back, with brochos to me to compensate me for my losses, (and costing them for their lack of consideration).
When there is a live person on the other end, I politely tell them that I NEVER ever pledge on line, I will NOT give them my credit card, and to NEVER again call this number. I get all of those calls at home, and can respond to them as I see fit. Disturbing my day’s work is not excusable.February 25, 2019 11:37 am at 11:37 am #1684948
The store asks for your number to track your purchases. You can politely decline. I assure you they will sell you your milk.February 25, 2019 12:11 pm at 12:11 pm #1684998
Being that it disturbs so many people, and as we see, very few will contribute through these calls, the tzedakas should get smart, & stop this nonsense!!February 25, 2019 12:14 pm at 12:14 pm #1685002
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
If they don’t stop, that means they obviously do make money from it.February 25, 2019 12:16 pm at 12:16 pm #1685004
People feel obligated to give a tzdekah who calls them up, no matter what the causeFebruary 25, 2019 12:51 pm at 12:51 pm #1685012
“People feel obligated to give a tzdekah who calls them up, no matter what the cause….”
People may feel obligated to do lots of questionable stuff but its borderline meshugah to give a credit card donation to some schneurer calling blind over the phone with a “heimeshe accent” claiming to be collecting for yesomim on behalf of some modsos you’ve never heard and likely doesn’t exist. Even if the guy shows up at your doorsteop motzi shabbos with a laminated “hechsher letter” from a rav you’ve heard of, I would still not give a dime without doing more checking since such letters have been known to be copied and forged. Best to give a check/credit card donation directly to through your shul, beis medrash or through someone you’ve confirmed is reputable. Obviously, not a concern when some of the local yeshiva boys/girls come around with a pushka asking for a donation but once you get into any serious dollars, the answer should generally be NO w/o further due dilligence.February 25, 2019 3:55 pm at 3:55 pm #1685108
When someone calls and tells the person who picks up that they kidnapped a family member and demand a ransom, they also feel obligated to donate.February 25, 2019 4:01 pm at 4:01 pm #1685110
If they don’t immediately identify the tzedaka in the first few seconds of the call, they are breaking consumer telecommunications protection law and subject to a federal fine. There is no issue of mesira on a Jew breaking the law that causes tircha to another Jew.February 25, 2019 4:02 pm at 4:02 pm #1685118
The store asks for your number to track your purchases. You can politely decline. I assure you they will sell you your milk.
From what i understand, bingo will not allow you to buy anything in there stores unless you filled out a form which includes phone number and email.
Correct me if I’m wrong on this.February 25, 2019 4:10 pm at 4:10 pm #1685127
The solution is simple, get a Panasonic phone that allows you to block a number with the push of a button. Most of these robo calls come from the same companies, I rarely get an annoying call anymore, they’ve all been blocked.February 27, 2019 12:15 am at 12:15 am #1685896
Takes2, unless they’ve changed the rules in the past few weeks, you’re wrong. I’ve shopped at Bingo and they’ve been happy to sell me stuff even though I’ve never given them any personal information. Bingo does have a free membership program that gets you better prices on a few items.
Moisha’s won’t let you use a credit card unless you “register.” I put it in quotes because the only information I had to give them was my phone number.
As regards the original topic, I get so few legitimate calls on my land line that I almost never answer unless I recognize the caller ID. And it’s not only frum Jews who get these calls. I’ve seen comments on websites like 800notes in which non-Jews complain about getting calls from Jewish charities.
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