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June 22, 2022 10:36 am at 10:36 am #2099121
In an Op-ed published this week in the NY Post, Piers Morgan argued that its time for the Republicans to “move on” and support Ron DeSantis for the 2024 nomination. Morgan, who was just hired by Rupert Mudroch to host a a new Fox News show characterized DeSantis as “younger, fresher and more exciting” than Trump, who he described as “the aging, raging gorilla who’s become a whiny, democracy-defying bore.” And that was perhaps one of the nicer comments he had about 45.
Until now, I thought the Ronald versus Donald game was sort of crazy speculation by Democratic aligned media but with a clear push from Fox News, perhaps the DeSantis train is gaining a bit of traction and he is becoming a serious challenger to Trump (who reportedly is going a bit crazy at his golf course in NJ watching the 1/6 Committee hearings and seeing additional losses by his endorsed candidates in primary elections)June 22, 2022 12:27 pm at 12:27 pm #2099265Reb EliezerParticipant
I thought from the title to evaluate the difference between Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump. Reagan, although I did not agree with all his policies, he was an honorable person whereas the latter is something to be desired.June 22, 2022 12:28 pm at 12:28 pm #2099277☕️coffee addictParticipant
☝️ TDS at it’s finest!
No other president has garnered so much attention while outside of officeJune 22, 2022 12:29 pm at 12:29 pm #2099275hujuParticipant
MacDonald and Duck would be better US presidents than DeSantis or Trump.June 22, 2022 12:34 pm at 12:34 pm #2099294akupermaParticipant
Perhaps because he never worked as a politician (whose tool set is how to minimize making enemies, being a bully can work for a tycoon, but never for someone who constantly needs to put together ever changing alliances), Trump has created a situation in which he is likely to be the only major Republican who won’t be able to beat Biden in 2024. Given that the alternative is four more years of Biden (or Harris, or who knows what fool the Democrats will turn to), even someone who loves Trump will prefer someone more likely to win the election.June 22, 2022 1:54 pm at 1:54 pm #2099306
“No other president has garnered so much attention while outside of office..”
True, but consider WHY. Historically, FORMER Presidents don’t continue litigating election outcomes once they leave office. Go back and look at every modern era President and you will see a uniform pattern of allowing their successor to govern w/o daily commentary via call-ins to major TV morning shows, much less a constant stream of news releases on what looks like WH stationary engraved with “OFFICE OF THE 45th PRESIDENT”, news conferences from behind a podium with a presidential seal and political rallies as if in the final weeks of a presidential campaign. The Donald can’t stand being out of the public spotlight an HE is inserting himself into our daily news cycles.
Would there still be a degree of TDS if he suddenly shut up, shut down the MAGA rallies and took up painting like GWB or teaching Sunday School like JC. Of course, but nowhere near the
circus show he himself creates and continues to sow turmoil wherever he goes.June 22, 2022 1:55 pm at 1:55 pm #2099319smerelParticipant
>>>TDS at it’s finest!
No other president has garnered so much attention while outside of office
Almost all of that attention is being given to him by his enemies. If he didn’t have so many of them and they didn’t have their own self serving motives for giving it to him that attention he would not be heard from any more than say Obama.June 22, 2022 1:56 pm at 1:56 pm #2099321smerelParticipant
Trump is going to pretend and hint that he is running until the last minute . His ego loves the speculation and false hopes among his base.
When it comes down to it, it is lot les likely that he will do so.
For two reasons:
(1)His ego won’t be able to take it if he loses again
(2)He can’t risk the mainstream Republicans turning on him more than they already did. He doesn’t need any former Republican allies looking to get him out the way turning to Democrats with something they “remember” Trump told them that can cause him major legal trouble. There is just a limit to how far you can stretch the value of negative attention when your former allies turn on you.
The above assumes Trump is still capable of rational thought. I’m uncertain that is still the case.June 22, 2022 3:34 pm at 3:34 pm #2099328🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
Huju – isn’t that who we have now?June 22, 2022 3:36 pm at 3:36 pm #2099345yaakov doeParticipant
I prefer Ronald McDonald to Ron or Donald.June 22, 2022 4:23 pm at 4:23 pm #2099397
“Almost all of that attention is being given to him by his enemies…”
Yup…no matter how hard he tries to avoid media attention, he still ends up in the spotlight. iJune 22, 2022 4:45 pm at 4:45 pm #2099402🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
You say that but the reality is you and jackk talk about nothing else and spend more time on him than any of us who supported him. Do you not realize that or do you prefer to pretend its not the caseJune 22, 2022 4:46 pm at 4:46 pm #2099404ujmParticipant
Obama never stopped politicking after he left office.
DeSantis would make an excellent President.June 22, 2022 4:47 pm at 4:47 pm #2099403ujmParticipant
Ronald has no chance against Donald in the Republican primary, if it comes to that. And he knows it.June 22, 2022 6:12 pm at 6:12 pm #2099414
UJM: I won’t bother responding since you know Obama tried to stay in the background for most of the first year of the Biden administration (working on his new media production company). He had a few speaking engagements but nothing of substance. I would agree that Trump would likely prevail if the primaries were held in the next few months but 2.5 years is a LONG time in politics.June 22, 2022 9:38 pm at 9:38 pm #2099431KuvultParticipant
I prefer Moe Howard (Moishe Horowitz) to Trump. He’s a natural born leader. How many times did he smack Curley and Larry without them smacking back?June 23, 2022 4:02 pm at 4:02 pm #2099690crazy horseParticipant
piers morgan isn’t told what to say by fox news, and he’s not a conservative he’s pro choice for instance.
your whole question is flawed.
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