October 21, 2020 1:58 pm at 1:58 pm #1912243
What’s the root of the first word of Bereishis 6:11, vatishacheis?
Both Artscroll and Kehot translate it as “had become corrupt”.October 21, 2020 2:10 pm at 2:10 pm #1912252
שחתOctober 21, 2020 4:02 pm at 4:02 pm #1912297
It is a piel as shiches, to corrupt.October 21, 2020 4:02 pm at 4:02 pm #1912301
Thanks. I thought I had looked for that one earlier in BDB and Jastrow. In any case, it’s there now.October 21, 2020 6:07 pm at 6:07 pm #1912371BenephraimParticipant
How can it be a piel?
It would then be active voice not passive.
Here it is passive voice,the earth was corrupted.
Try a different binyan adei ad?
Did not know people use BDB who were not from unzere.
Jastrow, nu , mayleh.October 21, 2020 7:29 pm at 7:29 pm #1912395
Benephraim, you are right this is passive, a nifal where the vov converts the future tense to past.October 21, 2020 7:29 pm at 7:29 pm #1912396
What are the alternatives to BDB and Jastrow? (for a BT without formal Jewish education)October 21, 2020 8:16 pm at 8:16 pm #19124041Participant
According to Rashi:
ותשחת [THE EARTH] WAS CORRUPT — It means lewdness and idolatry, as (Deuteronomy 4:16) פן תשחיתון “lest ye deal corruptly” (the following words show that this refers to idolatry) and as ‘כי השחית כל בשר וגו “for all flesh had corrupted etc.” (in next verse of this chapter where Rashi states that this has reference to lewdness) (Sanhedrin 57a).October 21, 2020 8:17 pm at 8:17 pm #1912399
I looked at Analytical Hebrew and Cbaldee Lexicon by Benjamin Davidson which enumerates all hebrew and aramaic words in Tenach (not unzere)וOctober 21, 2020 9:55 pm at 9:55 pm #1912444BenephraimParticipant
Reb Dovid, do you know the shoresh of Dovid and it’s meaning?
Secondly, the piel form of sh-ch-s is used in reference to Hashem Yisborach. The niphal is used for the land and the hiphil is used for the people.
Contrast this with healing where the doctor is piel and Hashem is Kal sometimes with and sometimes without a dagesh,?
Capesci?October 21, 2020 10:26 pm at 10:26 pm #1912453
The niphal root is shochas, to be corrupted.October 22, 2020 8:03 am at 8:03 am #1912542PekakParticipant
I think it’s a poel yotzeiOctober 22, 2020 10:35 am at 10:35 am #1912604
What does “unzere” mean?October 22, 2020 9:10 pm at 9:10 pm #1912732
Go and google ‘unsere’.October 22, 2020 9:21 pm at 9:21 pm #1912787
Google it yourself.October 26, 2020 10:10 am at 10:10 am #1913400
The Rabbenu Bachaya explains the difference between a doctor where it says verapah yerapeh with a ‘peh’ heavy, whereas by Hashem it says rofecha with a ‘feh’ light. Hashem’s cure is light but a doctor’s
is hard. By a doctor there is a double expression whereas by Hashem a single one. A doctor leaves side effects requiring to go back to heal. I also heard that we should seek a second opinion which are by Hashem unnecessary.
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