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  • #1783907
    Reb Eliezer
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    It says, go and enjoy yourself because it is a holiday to our Master whereas it is Yomim Naroim. Don’t show sadness or mourning by growing the hair and dress in black but hope that Hashem will make a neis and forgive us even though we might nor be worthty. We change our prayer to ‘King’ from ‘G-d,’ why? In order we should be forgiven, we have to realize that we are responsible to someone. By accepting Hashem as King on us, we recognize that he rules over us and we are His servants. Being His servants is a joy for us that He wants us to serve Him and we are not pushed away as the snake was provided his food and Hashem did not want to hear and from him.

    #1783958
    Reb Eliezer
    Participant

    This is the meaning, to rejoice from shock.

    #1784122
    Sam Klein
    Participant

    If a person was blessed to realize and always remember in his mind 24-7 that Hashem is king of kings and ruler of the world then he would be so fortunate to never sin. Would you sin and break the American law right in front of President trump? Just remember 24-7 That Hashem is watching you 24-7 and you will be in such awe and holiness for Hashem to allow yourself to come to sin

    May everyone be blessed directly from Hashem for a sweet new year ahead

    #1784169
    Reb Eliezer
    Participant

    Trumps breaks it why shouldn’t we? In SA the first siman, this is emphasized. We would not sin if we kept in mind that Hashem our King of Kings is infront of us but we forget, so doing aveiros on purpose is bishgogo,
    נכנס בו רוח שטות.

    #1784510
    smerel
    Participant

    This is a complicated topic. I still remember the horrors of Elul in a certain very extreme Yeshiva.

    Much as I vehemently disapprove of their approach the Rambam in Periush Mishnoyis does say that Rosh HaShana is a day of fear and trembling and not a happy day. Also, those Rebbeim and Masgichim were repeating what they heard from their Rebbeim and Masgichim who were Gedoloy Olam who knew Shas with Rishonim Baal Peh.

    That said, listening to their smuzin alone you would not have known that Yomim Noriam are days of Rachmim, you would not have known about being Mamlich HKB’H on Rosh HaShana. Had their Rebbeim been speaking to people like me they would not have said such things and would have emphasized other parts of Rosh Hashana as well/instead.

    #1784589
    Reb Eliezer
    Participant

    smerel, see SA O’CH 597 that we should not fast on Rosh Hashanah as it is a mitzva to be happy. see MB

    #1784690
    Gadolhadorah
    Participant

    Its not all that complicated. Live your life in accordance with your view of daas torah (as informed by your local Rav or posek), feel that you have done your best by hashem, your family and community, and most importantly, yourself, and walk into shul for the yamim noraim with humility but confident that you have done all you can to be zocheh for a shanah tovah.

    #1784749
    Reb Eliezer
    Participant

    GH, These are the words of the Tur:

    טור אורח חיים הלכות ראש השנה סימן תקפא
    ורוחצין ומסתפרין ע”פ המדרש א”ר סימון כתיב כי מי גוי גדול וגומר ר’ חנינא ור’ יהושע אומרין איזו אומה כאומה זו שיודעת אופיה של אלה-יה פי’ מנהגיו ודיניו שמנהגו של עולם אדם שיש לו דין לובש שחורים ומתעטף שחורים ומגדל זקנו ואין חותך צפרניו לפי שאינו יודע איך יצא דינו אבל ישראל אינן כן לובשים לבנים ומתעטפים לבנים ומגלחין זקנם ומחתכין צפרניהם ואוכלין ושותין ושמחים בר”ה לפי שיודעין שהקב”ה יעשה להם נס לפיכך נוהגין לספר ולכבס בער”ה ולהרבות מנות בר”ה ומכאן תשובה למתענין בר”ה

    #1784767
    lebidik yankel
    Participant

    Perhaps its a day of judgement, for it commemorates Hashem’s commencement of kingship. So we rejoice in His celebration, for that is appropriate, knowing that there in our celebration lies our road to a good judgement. So we rejoice while fearing inwardly.

    #1784755
    Reb Eliezer
    Participant

    By us the minhag is to wear the kitel on Rosh Hashanah. The question is, isn’t that a sign of sadness remembering death c’v? It actually makes us rejoice, wearing the kitel and being alive.

    #1899951
    Reb Eliezer
    Participant

    Rosh Hashanah has three names, Rosh Hashanah, tbe new year, Yom Hazikoran, day of rememberance and Yom Teriah, a day of the shofar. There are three basic beliefs according to the Baal Haikorim, Believe in Hashem as our Master and King, believe in reward and punishment and that the Torah is from the heavens. The three names above reflect this. The new year we accept Hashem as Master and King, we remember historical accounts of reward and punishments and shofar reminds us of Kabolas Hatorah.

    #1899962
    Reb Eliezer
    Participant

    The Baal Haikorim, to my recollection, says that malchiyos, zichronus and shofrus are against these three beliefs above.

    #1899963
    Reb Eliezer
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    MODERATOR! PLEASE MOVE THIS TOPIC TO DECAFFEINATED COFFEE!

    #1900030
    n0mesorah
    Participant

    I think Smerel’s post is the reason that Umann has such a pull on older yeshiva guys. It is difficult to stay positive on Rosh Hashana. Especially if you do not have a crowd. They tell me that in Umann there is a good balance between serious and happy.

    #1900059
    Sam Klein
    Participant

    No mesorah

    “They tell me that in Umann there is a good balance between serious and happy.”

    If a person wants a good balance…. Then he should make sure to always give tzedaka with an open hand and Hashem will take care of all his needs and make sure he always had a good balance as we say in shema every day ….. If a person serves Hashem with all his soul, body and money then he will always be satisfied and his needs will always be taken care of by Hashem himself directly.

    #1900090
    n0mesorah
    Participant

    Dear Sam,

    That is not the discussion. We are talking about mental fortitude. Being excited that it is Rosh Hashanah. And not starting the year with two unproductive days.

    #1900136
    Reb Eliezer
    Participant

    Hashem says, if you help mine, I will help yours. צדקה תציל ממות Tzedaka can’t be changed (killed away) by א’ת ב’ש as all the letters exist in it, as ה’צ and ד’ק.

    #1900269
    rational
    Participant

    “By us the minhag is to wear the kitel on Rosh Hashanah”
    Who is “us”?
    By us, the minhag is not to wear a kitel Rosh Hashanah. We wear it only on Yom Kippur.

    #1900299
    Reb Eliezer
    Participant

    The litvishe and chasidim don’t wear a kitel but the ashkenazim who say maarovis, eat gebrochs and wear tefilin on chol hamoed (oberlander) do. A bar mitzva boy wears a talis. Maarovis is not said on shabbos because peoole needed candle light to read it, so they might have to bend it to fix it.

    #1900438
    Sam Klein
    Participant

    No mesorah

    ”Being excited that it is Rosh Hashanah. And not starting the year with two unproductive days.”

    You said you want the secret to starting the new year excited that it’s rosh hashanah again? How about feeling blessed that another full year went by since last rosh hashanah-with this past year still in the midst of very hard times of coronavirus etc….-and boruch Hashem you are still healthy happy and smiling that Hashem has granted you to make it to the next year of rosh hashanah since you have stood in fear in front of Hashem a full year ago on rosh hashanah and yom Kippur etc…..?

    And this is actually a very powerful thing every person should think about on their birthday. Today I’m becoming ?? last year on this day I was a year younger and I was blessed directly by Hashem to another year of life and health etc…. Have I given my heartfelt thanks and appreciation to Hashem for granting me another year of life? Have I spent my past year wisely? Or as human nature let’s most of us just take life and the beauty it comes with for granted. Start appreciating your blessed life and everything that it comes with by thanking Hashem daily with heartfelt thanks and not taking life for granted.

    I wish everyone a ksiva vchasima tova

    #1900498
    Reb Eliezer
    Participant

    Sam Klein, the above should be the proper thought at the bracha of shehecheyonu which is made for a
    situation annually.

    #1900497
    n0mesorah
    Participant

    Dear Sam,

    Do you feel that way the entire time on Rosh Hashana?

    #1900538
    Sam Klein
    Participant

    No mesorah

    The yomim noraim days of rosh hashanah and yom Kippur is a SERIOUS time of teshuva and starting the year with Hashem with a fresh start however it should not be a stressful or depressing time as much as yom Kippur is a day of fasting and lots of davening etc…..

    In regards to your question. I know that not the entire day but
    ANYTIME that I will THINK about it I am fortunate to immediately appreciate and count my blessings for everything Hashem has given me and continues to give me bli ayin Hara and that is more than enough to be thankful and appreciative to Hashem and happy with my lot in life no matter where a person is holding. If it may be in how his financial balance is daily or in life’s issues he has to deal with. These are all for a person’s good and benefit and that reason in itself is enough for a person to NEVER have any excuse to complain or be sad against Hashem like the complainers did in the desert and we’re punished for it.

    May we all see the beauty in our lives and appreciate and count our blessings every day and thank Hashem for everything

    #1903474
    Reb Eliezer
    Participant

    We say in the in the Sanei Tokef that Rosh Hashanah we are written and Yom Kippur stamped, asks the Meharam Shik, how is this possible as the tsadikim and rashoim are written and stamped imeadiately and the in- between are left hung until Yom Kippur? I think it is talking about the in-between who are written in their book as a temporary scratch pad which is not stamped but moved to their respective books, life or vice versa written and stamped on Yom Kippur or Hoshanah Rabah.

    #1903522
    n0mesorah
    Participant

    I liked that😄

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