June 3, 2012 1:57 am at 1:57 am #603652
Hope that everyone who can attend tomorrow will be there to show support for Israel! Begins at 11 AM on 5th Avenue and 59th Street. Great concert in Central Park in the late afternoon!June 3, 2012 3:07 am at 3:07 am #878174cb1Member
i will i”yh be at the concert in central park.June 3, 2012 3:08 am at 3:08 am #878175
This is the first I’ve heard about it why didn’t the organizers advertise on YWN? or the Yated?June 3, 2012 12:51 pm at 12:51 pm #878176apushatayidParticipant
For what it is worth. The name was changed to the Celebrate Israel parade.June 3, 2012 3:58 pm at 3:58 pm #878178
It’s assur for men to go.June 3, 2012 4:04 pm at 4:04 pm #878179PatriMember
I’d sooner go to the Carribean Day Parade than this.June 3, 2012 4:04 pm at 4:04 pm #878180
I’m watching it on tv does that count?June 3, 2012 4:30 pm at 4:30 pm #878181
Oh cherrybim, classic saying that something’s assur when you have no idea what you’re talking about. Why is it assur for men to go and not women? Is it bc of tznius reasons? Then men shouldn’t be allowed to work in the city either!June 3, 2012 5:08 pm at 5:08 pm #878182
kfb -“Oh cherrybim, classic saying that something’s assur when you have no idea what you’re talking about. Why is it assur for men to go and not women? Is it bc of tznius reasons? Then men shouldn’t be allowed to work in the city either!”
Btw, you’re knocking one of your own. Cherrybim is a big Zionist.
And btw, you are right – it’s Assur for anyone to go – Men, women & children!June 3, 2012 5:17 pm at 5:17 pm #878183
Very boring parade switching to the yankees game go tigers!June 3, 2012 5:27 pm at 5:27 pm #878184takahmamashParticipant
Cherrybim, you forgot to add the words “in my opinion.”June 3, 2012 5:27 pm at 5:27 pm #878185PatriMember
KFB, for parnassa there is sometimes a heter to go somewhere otherwise permitted. Here there is no such heter.June 3, 2012 6:16 pm at 6:16 pm #878186MorahRachMember
Just because you do not support something or agree with it does not make it assur. There may be girls getting coffee at dunkin donuts the same time as my husband..ah! assur.June 3, 2012 6:21 pm at 6:21 pm #878187lakewhutParticipant
If you are so into achdus as the asifa, then you would go to the parade.June 3, 2012 6:50 pm at 6:50 pm #878188MorahRachMember
why IN YOUR OPINION is it assur for children and women to go as well?June 3, 2012 6:52 pm at 6:52 pm #878189LemonySnicketParticipant
“Btw, you’re knocking one of your own. Cherrybim is a big Zionist.”
Are cherrybim and Kfb part of a different religion than yours cause they support Israel? That’s what you make it sound like.
Btw I went to last years parade but not going this year as I don’t see a need to celebrate a country that kicks Jews out of their homes.June 3, 2012 9:26 pm at 9:26 pm #878190
250,000 Jews a REAL Asifa and there were all kinds there unlike other events and none of the revelers were forced to attend (Maybe the kids MARCHING in the parade were forced, but not the spectator)June 3, 2012 10:19 pm at 10:19 pm #878191ohr chodeshMember
Were the glbt toeiva marchers marching under their rainbow banner, as they usually do at the Israel Parade?June 3, 2012 10:55 pm at 10:55 pm #878192
Zahavasdad this was free entertainment event so 250k compared to 50k paying customers to hear mussar is an even draw id say if that.June 3, 2012 11:07 pm at 11:07 pm #878193
Alot of people did not pay for the Asifa (I didnt pay for Asifa tickets), for many the tickets were free , discounted and the transportation was heavily discounted especially from Lakewood.
I belive bus tickets from Lakewood was like $10 each round trip.
And even if you did pay for the Asifa, $10 is basically nothing anywayJune 3, 2012 11:25 pm at 11:25 pm #878194ohr chodeshMember
To the Asifa 60,000 people plus tens of thousands more in other cities and women in NY via cctv feeds, came to hear mussar not entertainment
How often do people come to a 5 hour mussar shmooze by almost the 100,000’s?June 3, 2012 11:31 pm at 11:31 pm #878195
$10 isnt much but what were they paying for? entertainment? no a good time? no, to hear from our leaders to teach us how to live our lives. In that context i think 50k is more impressive than 250k.June 3, 2012 11:46 pm at 11:46 pm #878196147Participant
cherrybim:- It is a much bigger Mitzwah for men to go to this parade with their wife & family, than having to leave their poor wife all alone at home during the Asifah.
It was great, and haShem held off the rain until after the wonderful parade.June 4, 2012 5:17 am at 5:17 am #878197cb1Member
The concert following the parade was very nice.June 4, 2012 5:28 am at 5:28 am #878198ChulentMember
Any female singers at the concert?June 4, 2012 11:40 am at 11:40 am #878199susheeMember
The parade had 35,000 participants, mostly from MO day schools. It had an official marching band for toeivaniks, under the banner Jewish Queer Youth. And it had women singers performing.June 4, 2012 12:19 pm at 12:19 pm #878200
Cherrybim or health- please answer my question! Why is assur to go?? Is it bc of supporting the state of Israel or bc of tzniyus reasons or bc of bitul Torah??? Which reason is it?June 4, 2012 1:14 pm at 1:14 pm #878201
The Concert has no Female Singers
There were 35,000 MARCHERS. The 250,000 was the crowd watching from the sidelines.June 4, 2012 2:13 pm at 2:13 pm #878202asyyegerParticipant
I belong to what some would call the right wing yeshivish world. My kids go to single-sex schools that do not celebrate Yom HaAtzmaut, much less march in the parade. And I am very pleased with the how my kids are taught about Yiddishkeit and to love it.
That being said, I grew up in the MO world where twice a year the Jewish world got together to support a unified cause. The Salute to Israel Day Parade, and Solidarity Sunday, when we rallied in support of Soviet Jewry. I was a marshall every year, collecting signatures, getting people to donate, or write telegrams of support. They were both amazing days that really showed a level of achdus among all stripes of Jews.
It’s very nice to talk about the achdus of the Asifa, but the truht is that the only people represented at the Asifa were people on the far right of the spectrum, both Chassidish and Litvish. And while it was very nice to see achdus in the sense of people getting together on an issue that affects us (regardless of your position), it was not a showing of achdus or love among different types of Jews.
Most of the kids in these right wing schools have little if any exposure to Jews who are less frum than themselves. And while I understand the fears of parents who do not want their children influenced – fears I share – I feel that it is very imprtant for my kids to know that there are all sorts of Jews out there who love and support Israel and are in fact our brothers and sisters.
Yes, there are issues with Medinat Yisrael, as opposed to Eretz Yisroel. But that should not prevent us from joining our fellow Jews and showing our support for the Jewish homeland.
Anyone and everyone is yelling about kiruv and reaching out to unaffiliated Jews. What could be a better way and place to show that we are not so different and that we actually agree on some things? Where is there a better opportunity to make a kiddush Hashem? You don’t like the group marching or what they stand for? Don’t clap for them. Engage their supporters in a respectful diolague. But failure to show up is a missed opportunity, both for ourselves and our children.June 4, 2012 3:18 pm at 3:18 pm #878203
Health, I’m glad to see that you agree with me.
“Is it bc of supporting the state of Israel”
Israel is great, we proclaim that at least three times a day.
“bc of tzniyus reasons”
Yes, why muddy up a mitzva with marchers who look like zonas.
“or bc of bitul Torah”
People need to relax sometimes.June 4, 2012 4:19 pm at 4:19 pm #878204
kfb -“health- please answer my question! Why is assur to go?? Is it bc of supporting the state of Israel or bc of tzniyus reasons or bc of bitul Torah??? Which reason is it?”
All of the above and probably more!June 4, 2012 4:27 pm at 4:27 pm #878205
LemonySnicket -“Are cherrybim and Kfb part of a different religion than yours cause they support Israel? That’s what you make it sound like.”
“Btw I went to last years parade but not going this year as I don’t see a need to celebrate a country that kicks Jews out of their homes.”
What? And they only started doing this within the last year?
Ever hear of Gush Katif?June 5, 2012 2:38 am at 2:38 am #878206
So health- give me a reason then instead of blabbing something’s assur. I think it’s assur for me to go bc I might curse and get in a fight w the Arab loving “Jews” who call themselves neturei karta.June 5, 2012 2:57 am at 2:57 am #878207
kfb -“So health- give me a reason then instead of blabbing something’s assur.”
Don’t you read the response post? I gave you three.
“I think it’s assur for me to go bc I might curse and get in a fight w the Arab loving “Jews” who call themselves neturei karta.”
If you think it’s only the NK who love Arabs -you are sadly mistaken. Half of Israelis love arabs and they are called leftists.June 5, 2012 12:08 pm at 12:08 pm #878208
Health I was the one who answered for you and you said yea all those reasons.
You’re right the Israeli left are Arab loving but they don’t even associate themselves with Judaism, and don’t look like Jews.
NK makes such a chillul Hashem!!June 5, 2012 6:04 pm at 6:04 pm #878209
i attended and it was wonderful. i did not see female performers at the concert.i found it heartwarming to see so many marchers and spectators out there supporting Israel. I loved seeing the new ambulances that were in the parade and will be ehading to MDA after the parade. i loved seeing all the hatzolah guys from different neighborhoods working together as well.
remarkable how well people can get along .
better than the people on this board, thats for sure.
not everyone has to like the idea of the parade but they should not demean it either. diff strokes for diff folksJune 5, 2012 9:11 pm at 9:11 pm #878210
mewho – “i did not see female performers at the concert.”
Oh, so how did you like the female dancers at the parade?
“remarkable how well people can get along.”
So did I see you at the Asifah?June 5, 2012 9:46 pm at 9:46 pm #878211
I have to ask again why was this event not advertised on places like YWN and Yated were they trying to keep certain types out of the parade?June 6, 2012 2:46 am at 2:46 am #878212
i was not at the asifah.
i know its hard for you to believe but i was totally unaware of female dancers at the parade. i watch the elected officials and the schools and floats. i watch the people on stilts, the motorcycle riders and things like that. i dont look for female or male dancers. i go in support of Israel.
i run into people that i havent seen in ages. matter of fact this year i met a person i had not seen or spoken to in 30 plus years. it was nice to see her again. we discussed our children, husbands etc.
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