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February 16, 2018 11:12 am at 11:12 am #1470615zahavasdadParticipant
Just a memory of Scott Beigel Zt’l who died trying to protect students from the Florida School Shooter, He gave his own life so his students could live
May his family be comforted among the mourners of Zion
February 18, 2018 3:55 pm at 3:55 pm #1471424iacisrmmaParticipantZD: While we mourn the loss of this individual who certainly did a heroic act, I don’t know if it is appropriate to say “ZTL” which stands for Zecher Tzaddik Livrocho. Even the Home page of YWN only states Z”L (Zecher Livrocha).
February 18, 2018 4:30 pm at 4:30 pm #1471469🍫Syag LchochmaParticipantIf even one of those children he saved were Jes (the school was 40% Jewish) he will have the zchus of saving worlds. Yesh kone olamo b’sha’a achas may apply here, how fortunate is his neshama to have those zchusim to bring with him.
February 18, 2018 5:02 pm at 5:02 pm #1471496☕️coffee addictParticipantmods,
seriously? you had a Havah Amina?
February 18, 2018 5:02 pm at 5:02 pm #1471497iacisrmmaParticipantSL: Even if “yesh kone” is applicable it may not elevate the person to the level of a “tzaddik” to say “zt’l”.
February 18, 2018 7:27 pm at 7:27 pm #1471549🍫Syag LchochmaParticipantIacisrmma – i didnt think this thread needed to focus further on discussing his spiritual lacking, i was trying to say something in his honor.
February 19, 2018 2:10 am at 2:10 am #1471614Avi KParticipantAccording to Rambam a tzaddik is someone whose mitzvot outweigh his aveirot – and we do not know the weights (Hilchot Teshuva 3:1-2). Thety are different for each individual (Rav Dessler, Michtav meEliahu, Kuntras Nekudat haBechira). However, for some reason the minhag is that “zatzal” is only written about talmidei chachamim. After the name of a murder victim we write “Hy’d”.
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