Searing meat for cholent

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  • #1522067

    DovidBT
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    Is it worth the trouble to sear meat prior to adding it to cholent, considering that the meat is going to be soaking in boiling water for at least twelve hours?

    If so, does applying a dry rub (blend of spices) to the meat, before searing it, provide any benefit?

    #1522097

    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    Absolutely yes to both! i don’t like boiled meat so i used to make sure the meat stayed above the waterline but searing it first, especially with seasonings tastes so much better in my family’s opinion

    #1522213

    Toi
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    Absolutely no to both. Totally overrated, and I make a killer cholent.

    #1522635

    DovidBT
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    Absolutely yes to both!

    Absolutely no to both.

    🙂 🙂 🙂

    #1522719

    Gadolhadorah
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    For the growing number of yidden who have recognized (with their cardiologist’s advice) the sakanas nefesh derived from fatty meats and are increasing their consumption of tofu an other plant-based proteins, searing the tofu cubes is important but do so after you have first marinated them since searing will make it more difficult for the flavors to penetrate. Another option is to go 50/50 in terms of the mix of real meat and meat substitutes. Either way, marinating first assures better flavor. There are still some traditionalists who insist on having “basar” on Shabbos so throwing in a few shticklach fleish won’t hurt you in moderation.

    #1522831

    👑RebYidd23
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    You don’t mention the known risks of tofu. My accurate and relevant opinion on tofu was deleted by the mods, so I won’t say it exactly, but imagine that you read a post by RebYidd23 against tofu that shed light on how awful tofu truly is.

    #1522910

    mentsch1
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    GH
    Are you a vegetarian?
    If yes , just please come out and say it so we can properly pounce on you
    And gut vuch to all, hope you had an uplifting Yom Tov

    #1523412

    Gadolhadorah
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    Not a vegie or vegan (although one of my kids has gone OTD with respect to meat and most fish)…but definitely trying to minimize my intake for health reasons. I spent yom tov in the UK (sadly not for the chassanah) and it seems that vegetarians are increasing in numbers over there as well….

    #1523430

    YW Moderator-25
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    My accurate and relevant opinion on tofu was deleted by the mods

    Was it? I don’t see anything deleted here

    #1523495

    Avram in MD
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    Gadolhadorah,

    If you’re avoiding meat for health reasons, you might not be doing yourself favors with tofu. Tofu is made from processed soybeans, which aren’t very healthy. A lentil soup in the crock pot would supply an excellent amount of plant based protein.

    #1523543

    👑RebYidd23
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    The deleted tofu post was on a different thread where Gadolhadorah posted a different pro tofu post.

    #1523894

    Gadolhadorah
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    Rebyiddel….I’ll be glad to respond to any posting which suggests that the fatty meats used in chulent are somehow preferable to vegetable based proteins, whether tofu, seitan etc. They have much lower fat, sodium, etc. plus essential amino acids and iron. Meat in moderation is great but save it for a great burger or filet versus wasting it on chulent.

    #1523912

    DovidBT
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    Hashem told me I can eat meat. He didn’t say anything about replacing it with tofu.

    #1523986

    👑RebYidd23
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    Gadolhadorah, why is it that almost everyone who considers bean curd a suitable replacement for meat seems compelled to broadcast their opinion to the world?

    #1524024

    mentsch1
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    Rebyidd
    They want everyone to be equally miserable

    #1524058

    Gadolhadorah
    Participant

    Rebyiddel….
    Chazal bring down in relation to the obligation of “ushmartem es nafshosechem” that we are not only required to care for ourselves in terms of what and how much we heat, but to “spread the word” about riskylifestyle practices that jeopardize our fundamental well being. Whatever you may believe about the virtues of meat on shabbos, in matters of nutrition, even my Rav tells me to listen to my cardiologist.

    #1525312

    Avram in MD
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    Gadolhadorah,

    If spreading the word about healthy eating is your true goal, what is the purpose of your fixation with the highly processed meat substitute tofu in the face of very little agreement that it is a good substitute for meat? Why not promote eating a variety of whole grains, fruits, and vegetables?

    #1526045

    Gadolhadorah
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    Avram…
    If you go to Seven Mile and look for a meat substitute that is readily used in cooking, almost all the options are either tofu or seitan (with one or two almond-based options). You are right that a full variety of whole grains, fruits nuts and vegetables along with seafood are essential but I was focusing on a narrow slice of the menu….items that can directly substiute for beef in chulent and other traditional recipies which rely on red meats.

    #1526068

    👑RebYidd23
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    Karbanos cannot be tofu.

    #1526072

    DovidBT
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    I bought some tofu, for the first time ever!

    I’m not going put it into the cholent, though, so I won’t bother searing it. After I’ve cooked and eaten some, I’ll be back with my opinion on it.

    #1526443

    Milhouse
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    Chazal bring down in relation to the obligation of “ushmartem es nafshosechem” that we are not only required to care for ourselves in terms of what and how much we heat, but to “spread the word” about risky lifestyle practices that jeopardize our fundamental well being.

    Really? Where do they say that? I’ve never seen it anywhere.

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