Searing meat for cholent
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May 17, 2018 11:57 am at 11:57 am #1522067
Is it worth the trouble to sear meat prior to adding it to cholent, considering that the meat is going to be soaking in boiling water for at least twelve hours?
If so, does applying a dry rub (blend of spices) to the meat, before searing it, provide any benefit?May 17, 2018 12:14 pm at 12:14 pm #1522097🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
Absolutely yes to both! i don’t like boiled meat so i used to make sure the meat stayed above the waterline but searing it first, especially with seasonings tastes so much better in my family’s opinionMay 17, 2018 1:00 pm at 1:00 pm #1522213ToiParticipant
Absolutely no to both. Totally overrated, and I make a killer cholent.May 17, 2018 11:37 pm at 11:37 pm #1522635
Absolutely yes to both!
Absolutely no to both.
🙂 🙂 🙂May 18, 2018 10:05 am at 10:05 am #1522719
For the growing number of yidden who have recognized (with their cardiologist’s advice) the sakanas nefesh derived from fatty meats and are increasing their consumption of tofu an other plant-based proteins, searing the tofu cubes is important but do so after you have first marinated them since searing will make it more difficult for the flavors to penetrate. Another option is to go 50/50 in terms of the mix of real meat and meat substitutes. Either way, marinating first assures better flavor. There are still some traditionalists who insist on having “basar” on Shabbos so throwing in a few shticklach fleish won’t hurt you in moderation.May 18, 2018 3:37 pm at 3:37 pm #1522831
You don’t mention the known risks of tofu. My accurate and relevant opinion on tofu was deleted by the mods, so I won’t say it exactly, but imagine that you read a post by RebYidd23 against tofu that shed light on how awful tofu truly is.May 21, 2018 10:40 pm at 10:40 pm #1522910mentsch1Participant
Are you a vegetarian?
If yes , just please come out and say it so we can properly pounce on you
And gut vuch to all, hope you had an uplifting Yom TovMay 22, 2018 10:20 am at 10:20 am #1523412
Not a vegie or vegan (although one of my kids has gone OTD with respect to meat and most fish)…but definitely trying to minimize my intake for health reasons. I spent yom tov in the UK (sadly not for the chassanah) and it seems that vegetarians are increasing in numbers over there as well….May 22, 2018 10:32 am at 10:32 am #1523430YW Moderator-25Moderator
My accurate and relevant opinion on tofu was deleted by the mods
Was it? I don’t see anything deleted hereMay 22, 2018 11:21 am at 11:21 am #1523495Avram in MDParticipant
If you’re avoiding meat for health reasons, you might not be doing yourself favors with tofu. Tofu is made from processed soybeans, which aren’t very healthy. A lentil soup in the crock pot would supply an excellent amount of plant based protein.May 22, 2018 11:37 am at 11:37 am #1523543
The deleted tofu post was on a different thread where Gadolhadorah posted a different pro tofu post.May 22, 2018 4:12 pm at 4:12 pm #1523894
Rebyiddel….I’ll be glad to respond to any posting which suggests that the fatty meats used in chulent are somehow preferable to vegetable based proteins, whether tofu, seitan etc. They have much lower fat, sodium, etc. plus essential amino acids and iron. Meat in moderation is great but save it for a great burger or filet versus wasting it on chulent.May 22, 2018 4:49 pm at 4:49 pm #1523912
Hashem told me I can eat meat. He didn’t say anything about replacing it with tofu.May 22, 2018 6:58 pm at 6:58 pm #1523986
Gadolhadorah, why is it that almost everyone who considers bean curd a suitable replacement for meat seems compelled to broadcast their opinion to the world?May 22, 2018 7:42 pm at 7:42 pm #1524024mentsch1Participant
They want everyone to be equally miserableMay 22, 2018 10:28 pm at 10:28 pm #1524058
Chazal bring down in relation to the obligation of “ushmartem es nafshosechem” that we are not only required to care for ourselves in terms of what and how much we heat, but to “spread the word” about riskylifestyle practices that jeopardize our fundamental well being. Whatever you may believe about the virtues of meat on shabbos, in matters of nutrition, even my Rav tells me to listen to my cardiologist.May 23, 2018 5:03 pm at 5:03 pm #1525312Avram in MDParticipant
If spreading the word about healthy eating is your true goal, what is the purpose of your fixation with the highly processed meat substitute tofu in the face of very little agreement that it is a good substitute for meat? Why not promote eating a variety of whole grains, fruits, and vegetables?May 25, 2018 12:10 am at 12:10 am #1526045
If you go to Seven Mile and look for a meat substitute that is readily used in cooking, almost all the options are either tofu or seitan (with one or two almond-based options). You are right that a full variety of whole grains, fruits nuts and vegetables along with seafood are essential but I was focusing on a narrow slice of the menu….items that can directly substiute for beef in chulent and other traditional recipies which rely on red meats.May 25, 2018 12:57 am at 12:57 am #1526068
Karbanos cannot be tofu.May 25, 2018 3:08 am at 3:08 am #1526072
I bought some tofu, for the first time ever!
I’m not going put it into the cholent, though, so I won’t bother searing it. After I’ve cooked and eaten some, I’ll be back with my opinion on it.May 27, 2018 3:26 am at 3:26 am #1526443MilhouseParticipant
Chazal bring down in relation to the obligation of “ushmartem es nafshosechem” that we are not only required to care for ourselves in terms of what and how much we heat, but to “spread the word” about risky lifestyle practices that jeopardize our fundamental well being.
Really? Where do they say that? I’ve never seen it anywhere.June 1, 2018 5:29 pm at 5:29 pm #1531151
After I’ve cooked and eaten some, I’ll be back with my opinion on it.
I had some tofu for dinner last night.
It has absolutely no taste! Two-year old machine-made matzah has more taste than tofu.
In the future, if I want a high protein source other than meat, I think I’ll stick to fish.
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