March 30, 2020 10:39 pm at 10:39 pm #1845046Care4othersParticipant
We know in Metzrayim we had the idea of al yatzey ish mebayso. Not to leave your home on pesach night. This year too please stay safer at home= seder at hame.
May we see yishuas hashem bekaeov!March 31, 2020 7:51 am at 7:51 am #1845138MilhouseParticipant
In Mitzrayim nobody was alone for the seder. On the contrary, ואם ימעט הבית מהיות משה then the Torah says ולקח הוא ושכנו. Kol shekein that someone who was alone had to combine with one or more neighbors and not be by himself.March 31, 2020 9:24 am at 9:24 am #1845185
The Rabbenu Bechaye explains that the blood on the doorpost endangered them, as the Mitzryim seeing it knew that Jews lived there and they were sitting ducks. They could not leave their house strengthening their belief in Hashem to protect them.March 31, 2020 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm #1845237GadolhadorahParticipant
There are lots of really good resources available for planning this year’s sedorim taking into account the isolation of families accustomed to gathering together I can’t post URLs here but if you google search terms such as “seder” and “family” and “virus” and “social distancing” you will find several sites offering suggestions to organize you seder in a way that keeps the kids occupied.March 31, 2020 2:05 pm at 2:05 pm #1845257☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
Not everyone has kids. I know some people who will literally be alone for the seder.
It must be done, but it’s painful to hear about and I’m sure much more painful to experience.March 31, 2020 2:05 pm at 2:05 pm #1845290lowerourtuition11210Participant
milhouse: I dont think the yidden had a seder in mitzrayim. yes they ate the korban pesach, matza, maror, but the geulah did not happen yet. there was no mitzvah of arbah kosos nor sippur yetzias mitzrayim.March 31, 2020 2:29 pm at 2:29 pm #1845366rationalParticipant
Rabeinu BachyeMarch 31, 2020 4:52 pm at 4:52 pm #1845398March 31, 2020 9:41 pm at 9:41 pm #1845452zahavasdadParticipant
I know people who are alone who cannot do their own seders. Im sure you know such people too. I do not know what these people will do . Unfortuantly One of them I know got themselves invited to peoples houses (A really bad idea)
There might be people who were sitting shiva until Erev Peseach and didnt even have time to prepareApril 1, 2020 1:54 am at 1:54 am #1845606yehudayonaParticipant
For an inspirational take on being alone for Seder, read “When the Lubavitcher Rebbe Self-Quarantined for Seder” on R’ Pini Dunner’s website.April 1, 2020 7:16 am at 7:16 am #1845652zahavasdadParticipant
I saw that Lubabicher story, for 80%-90% of the people living alone, it would work, They will be disapointed, but they will manage and survive. Its the 10-20% of the people who cannot manage that I am concerned about. For example there are people with Aids who had planned to spend the Yom tov with their families, they have the aid for a reason.
I am sure you know people too who are more on the edges of society that barely manage in normal times. Focus on these people, not the 60 something divorcee, who lives alone, Is fairly healthy, who had planned to spend Peseach with their children and grandchildren, Is disappointed they cannot, and has to spend the seder alone. They will survive and manage.April 1, 2020 7:21 am at 7:21 am #1845630rationalParticipant
It would be unfortunate if mistakes were perpetuated simply because our revered teachers were not aware of the correct pronunciation. I know of no gemara that mandates errors or mistakes. בלשון רבו does not mean בטעויות רבו.
I also heard as a young man only B’chaye, but it turns out that it is incorrect. No one’s fault, really, over time many words become adulterated, it’s part of language and dialect development. Rabeinu Bachye lived in Moslem Spain in the 11th century and not in Bobroisk or Eishishok in the 19th century. However, the correct pronunciation is Rabeinu Bachye or possibly Bachyai. Please tell your rebbeim, I’m sure they also would want to pronounce someone else’s name the proper way.April 1, 2020 1:23 pm at 1:23 pm #1845672
rational, be rational and see Maseches Shabbos 15,1, Berochos 47,1 שחייב אדם לומר בלשון רבו. and I don’t know who is right. We find others Ritvo or Ritva and Rashba or Rashbo.
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