May 2, 2016 7:13 am at 7:13 am #617649shmelkeeParticipant
What are the halachos regarding 1. singing and 2. playing music at a wedding or other simchah while observing the sefira. Is there any hetter of being mesameach chosson vkallah with singing or playing music?
I am not talking about a case where it is the performers parnassa, but rather in a case where it is being done for free as a favor.
If muttar, would it also be permissible to practice beforehand with music?
Please bring sources if possible .
Thank you.May 2, 2016 11:46 am at 11:46 am #1150139Shopping613 🌠Participant
Uh…there aren’t weddings during sefirahMay 2, 2016 12:35 pm at 12:35 pm #1150140WolfishMusingsParticipant
Uh…there aren’t weddings during sefirah
Sure there are. You could be observing one half of sefirah and the bride and groom the other half with the wedding occurring during the non-overlapping portion.
To the best of my knowledge, there is no issur on singing.
As for playing music, I would imagine it would be permitted, but I could be wrong on that. As always, AYLOR.
The WolfMay 2, 2016 2:37 pm at 2:37 pm #1150141The little I knowParticipant
As far as I know, the minhagim of when to observe the restrictions of sefira are not intended as the practice of aveilus. These minhagim are simply to make a remembrance of the talmidei Rabi Akiva whose deaths were the result of their failure at maintaining proper social relationships with each other – despite being talmidei chachomim. There is a powerful lesson in this. That is, without a single challenge, the most significant aspect of the restrictions of sefiras haomer. In order to make this mark, the chachomim enacted certain restrictions. One was the refraining from making weddings. The music thing is not one of their takanos. The Mishna Berura makes specific reference to ?????? ????????, which essentially refers to live music and dances. Recorded music is not part of that. It is common practice to refrain from recorded music, especially as the quality has improved to the point that one can conduct dancing with a DJ playing recorded music. Similarly, the slow music, like the nigunim of dveikus and hisorrerus would not be included. The presence of musical instruments is at the best, a secondary issue. Vocal presentations that are actually simcha-type nigunim that are realistic enough to make someone dance would likely be problematic in the spirit of the law.
I do wish there was more preoccupation with the matters of tikun hamidos that needs to characterize sefiras haomer, with the inherent preparation for Kabolas Hatorah. The issues with music are a far second to the preparation for Kabolas Hatorah.
An addition, if one follows the minhag of the Ram”o (s’iff 3) who describes the “second minhag” in which the time range for these restrictions goes from Rosh Chodesh Iyar, one may attend a chasunah that is made by someone who follows the “first minhag” that extends only until Lag baomer, and vice versa. It is about making the remembrance, not living in aveilus.May 2, 2016 2:43 pm at 2:43 pm #1150142Sam2Participant
shmelkee: R’ Moshe famously is Mattir it in OC 1:167 (give or take). Others argue.May 2, 2016 2:50 pm at 2:50 pm #1150143DaMosheParticipant
When I was in Darchei Torah, R’ Yaakov Reisman (Rav of the Agudah of Long Island) gave a shiur on this topic. The son of a Rebbe had gotten engaged during the beginning of sefirah (before Rosh Chodesh), and a vort was held at the yeshiva for him, with music. The shiur was to explain how to deal with such a situation.
R’ Reisman told us that if there is a wedding, there is a mitzvah to be misameach the new couple, so dancing is allowed, as the mitzvah overrides the minhag of refraining from dancing during sefirah. However, if it was just an engagement, or a bar mitzvah, one should not dance, as it isn’t a special mitzvah to be misameach anyone.May 2, 2016 3:51 pm at 3:51 pm #1150144☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
As far as I know, the minhagim of when to observe the restrictions of sefira are not intended as the practice of aveilus.
Source? ???? (in ??”?) says it is aveilus.
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