June 7, 2016 9:54 am at 9:54 am #617819CTRebbeParticipant
I understand that the segulah of R. Chaim Palagi of giving 104 (91+13)perutos on erev shavuos to a talmid chacham is a recent inyan dug up by valid tzadakah organizations as a gimmick to get nice hundred dollar donations. However, can anyone think of a reason why not to do it with quarters instead of dollars? It says “perutos”, and I think most poskim would say a quarter counts as a perutah. BTW-I don’t believe in asking halachic shailos to the coffee room, but I don’t think that this counts as a halachic issue (it’s just a nice thing)June 7, 2016 10:42 am at 10:42 am #1154564theprof1Participant
104 perutos means 104 pennies. a peruta is the lowest coin denomination. you can put 104 pennies into a r. mair baal haness pushka and it has the same value as a segula as does $104 to some gimich minded organization.June 7, 2016 1:06 pm at 1:06 pm #1154565MenoParticipant
I firmly believe that you are better off giving $105 dollars to tzedakah than $104June 7, 2016 1:34 pm at 1:34 pm #1154566JosephParticipant
I firmly believe that you are better off giving $105 dollars to tzedakah than $104
You’re disputing Rav Chaim Palagi zt’l?June 7, 2016 2:52 pm at 2:52 pm #1154567☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
That’s not disputing. Giving $105 is giving $104 plus another dollar.
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As long as it’s at least 104 we’re good.June 7, 2016 6:29 pm at 6:29 pm #1154569MDGParticipant
A peruta is the amount of the weight of half a barley grain. ( I forgot where I learned that – something to do with the beginning of Kiddushin.)
According to modern understanding, a troy ounce is 480 grains. Silver is around $16.50 per ounce today, so a grain is worth 3.4 cents. We need only half that for a peruta, so 1.7 cents. AFAIK, that’s bullion price. We need to add 60% more to make it retail price, which gives us 2.75 cents. 104 perutot is therefore $2.84June 7, 2016 11:11 pm at 11:11 pm #1154570CTRebbeParticipant
I believe R. Moshe said that a pruta is the smallest denomination that you can buy something with. About 30-40 years ago he said that was a dime. Today I think most would say its a quarter. Either way it sounds like rov poskim of the coffee room say there is no reason to do $104 to fulfill the segulah.
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