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November 29, 2015 5:12 am at 5:12 am #616742positive attitudeMember
I just heard about a segulah for all inyanim by learning a sefer called Zera Shimshon, the author Reb Shimshon Chaim Nachmani who passed away without children promises in the introduction that anyone who learns from this all good etc.., (he lists alot specific things) and many have seen yeshous just by learning from this sefer including having children after many years, shidduchim, refuos, parnassah, please let me know if anybody has heard about this and have seen results, or if what happens if you try it.
November 29, 2015 12:59 pm at 12:59 pm #1114635Shopping613 🌠ParticipantSegulos don’t work. People do.
November 29, 2015 1:11 pm at 1:11 pm #1114636zahavasdadParticipantThe best segulahs for parnassah is to write resumes, cover letters and fill out job applications. You will get alot more job offers that way than learning a sefer
November 29, 2015 1:13 pm at 1:13 pm #11146372scentsParticipantIt’s not a segula, he writes that since he doesn’t have children as his only son past away, whoever learns his Sefer will be a zchus for his neshama, and in return he should have children.
Agreed. And the sefer is a very difficult one to learn. It is more of a “gift of hakaros hatov” than a segula
November 29, 2015 1:13 pm at 1:13 pm #1114638Avi KParticipantSelling the sefer is a segula for parnassa.
November 29, 2015 4:22 pm at 4:22 pm #1114641Little FroggieParticipantI’ve also heard of that segula / inyan.
November 29, 2015 6:02 pm at 6:02 pm #11146422scentsParticipantso we agree on somethings..
November 29, 2015 7:32 pm at 7:32 pm #1114643positive attitudeMemberOK if you dont want to believe fine, but many people have seen yeshous just by learning from this sefer everyday, besides for the fact that he promises a couple things for anyone who learns it, anyway what does it hurt, give it a shot, you have nothing to lose!
November 29, 2015 9:41 pm at 9:41 pm #1114644zogt_besserParticipantthe thing to lose is if people take this very seriously and then have real yeiush or a detraction in emunah if they don’t get what they want.
November 29, 2015 11:58 pm at 11:58 pm #1114645zahavasdadParticipantOK if you dont want to believe fine, but many people have seen yeshous just by learning from this sefer everyday, besides for the fact that he promises a couple things for anyone who learns it, anyway what does it hurt, give it a shot, you have nothing to lose!
I know lots of people who wrote resumes and filled out job applications and they got jobs
November 30, 2015 12:09 am at 12:09 am #1114646🍫Syag LchochmaParticipantyou know the first time you said it you had a point. this time you are just trying to put it down. it’s not a segula, nobody is marketing it as one, and nobody said not to write a resume so what do you care if someone picks up a sefer and breaks their teeth over it in order to give a man a zchus and bring himself closer to Hashem. Which, by the way, will always be rewarded.
November 30, 2015 12:56 pm at 12:56 pm #1114647flyerParticipantNachman Seltzer is his book I have an amazing story for you has a few stories regarding this sefer – of people who have seen yeshuos after learning or distributing this sefer.
November 30, 2015 1:22 pm at 1:22 pm #1114648ED IT ORParticipantif nachman seltzer in his book writes it than it must be true!
ive just quit my job and ordered a copy…
November 30, 2015 2:51 pm at 2:51 pm #1114649Shopping613 🌠ParticipantYeshuos work on some people and not all people.
Because it’s not the sefer/tehilim/or the 40 trips to the kosel
It’s how it changed you. It’s how you think differently afterwards. It’s how you are growing.
That’s all Hashem wants. A “yeshuav” is only a push to get you to change/grow. If you do the yeshuah blindly and forget/don’t let it change you/don’t actually act on what you have learned than it doesn’t work.
People work. Not yeshuos.
November 30, 2015 2:52 pm at 2:52 pm #1114650Shopping613 🌠ParticipantThis is why it only works on some people. It works on the people who actually change and grow. So it depends on you if this yeshuah will work too.
November 30, 2015 3:38 pm at 3:38 pm #1114651assurnetParticipantzahavasdad – “I know lots of people who wrote resumes and filled out job applications and they got jobs”
And I know a lot of people who wrote resumes and filled out applications and still can’t find a job! Just like segulot – hishtadlus also isn’t a 100% guarantee of success. The way I see it if you do both then at least you covered all your bases and did the best you could… additionally davening is always the best option of them all.
November 30, 2015 3:39 pm at 3:39 pm #1114652🍫Syag LchochmaParticipantwell stated
November 30, 2015 3:46 pm at 3:46 pm #1114653zahavasdadParticipantadditionally davening is always the best option of them all.
You dont just daven for the job, you apply for the job and then daven.
No amount of davening is going to get me a job as a Doctor or astrophysicist
November 30, 2015 4:23 pm at 4:23 pm #1114654Avram in MDParticipantzahavasdad,
additionally davening is always the best option of them all.
You dont just daven for the job, you apply for the job and then daven.
Did you read the rest of assurnet’s post? Why are you disagreeing with him by stating exactly what he stated?
He wrote:
The way I see it if you do both then at least you covered all your bases and did the best you could
December 1, 2015 3:11 am at 3:11 am #1114655flyerParticipantcrazy brit – you are so negative and sarcastic. I do believe his stories are true but that is not what I said. I said he has it in his book. If someone is interested in finding out more they can look at the book and do their research from there. I am sure you can find people who are in the book and did have a yeshua.
December 1, 2015 4:56 am at 4:56 am #1114656🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant“ive just quit my job and ordered a copy… “
well that’s dumb because nobody advocated for that, and buying the safer wouldnt help you anyway, you have to learn it. and it would probably require a different type of attitude.
December 1, 2015 8:49 am at 8:49 am #1114657dlzMemberI heard of the segulah – I learned a few shticklech in the sefer. It is not easy, but it is very geshmack. The particular inyan I needed a yeshua for worked out, B”H. I don’t know if the learning was the cause, but it certainly didn’t hurt. Even people who don’t like most Chassidishe seforim (like me) will, IMHO, enjoy the sefer. It is available, BTW, on hebrewbooks.org.
December 1, 2015 3:12 pm at 3:12 pm #1114658🍫Syag LchochmaParticipantdlz, thank you. i wanted to get hold of that book but got no response from the email posted in the article. I will b”n try hebrewbooks.
December 3, 2015 5:59 pm at 5:59 pm #1114659HashemisreadingParticipantSegulos do work. After all, we are the Am Segula.
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