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If the minyan selichos davening is going too fast, is it perferable to skip parts to keep up with the Shatz? Do you have to make up the skipped parts later? If so, how do you keep track of what you skipped?
iced
I asked a Rabbi about this one, he said rather say it slowly and with kavanah and not finish each piyut, than to rush to say it all without kavanah. When they say Kel Melech, wherever you are holding, say it with them. There’s no need to go back and make up what you missed.
The most important part is to say the 13 middos with the tzibbur, regardless of where you are holding.
The Wolf
It always greatly annoys me as well. In those years that I can make it to slichos, anyway. I need to sleep 8-9 hours (preferably 10) per night and get up for work at 6:15, so it’s usually not really possible for me to get to a slichos minyan.
Try Beis Hatalmud upstairs at 5.30am
I heard b’Shem R’ Elyashiv that the most important part of Selichos are … the Selichos themselves. Of, course, one can only say the 13 Midos together with the Tzibur, and so one should interrupt to do so. But he should then continue where he was holding in the Selichos.
Mobico,
I have heard that the most important parts (after 13 middos) are the 3 or 4 psukim as introductions to each of the slichos with kerachem ov that follows.
Why not go to a different shul where the pace is one you are comfortable with.
Selichos is so important. Many places DO daven too fast. Too fast means not giving time to contemplate and think even a little about what one is saying, only to rush thru saying words we do not understand and concepts we are not grasping. Selicha is begged, not said, so we do not go to say selichos rather to ‘beit’ or ask selicha. A minyan that begins ten mins earlier makes all the difference.
Incidentally I was also told like Aaron Chaim said that the most important part are the few pesukim between before beginning the new selicha, while of course the yud gimmel middos are never rejected by hashem if said properly and we live by those middos ourselves.
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