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    yoyo56
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    im a little confused as to why i should go allot of ppl give me a lists of reasons but i still dont see why! i feel like its this new thing and everyone just goes with the flow i dont see why i should go or why anybody has to go its just a waste of money and time. when people ask me if im going i tell them im not sure but in the back of my mind im thinking other things. in a way i want to go bec everyone else is going but thats not a reason to go.

    im so confused!!!!

    #801031
    yossi z.
    Member

    Coming from a (relatively) parallel situation, (beis medrash), I would say consider those things you feel are most important to you in hashkafot, frumkeit, etc, and see if seminary is something that would further those goals or not.

    Oh and welcome back. I haven’t seen you around here in a while 🙂

    😀 Zuberman! 😀

    #801032
    tzippi
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    Are you going into 12th grade or did you just graduate?

    #801033
    TheGoq
    Participant

    “Oh and welcome back. I haven’t seen you around here in a while”

    Zuberman u should know a yo yo always comes back 🙂

    #801034

    GO TO SEMINARY IT WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE REGARDLESS OF THE REASONS YOU GO FOR

    #801035
    rfs
    Member

    The only way for you to realize why you should go to seminary is for you to go to seminary! No words can describe it; it’s “htbt”, and trust me on this one, you won’t regret going.

    #801036
    kylbdnr
    Member

    Actually, I don’t agree. I think seminary was a pure waste of a year.

    #801037
    golden mom
    Member

    well i hope ur going into 12th grade cuz otherwise ur too late to think about it for this yr…it is alot of money but it will change ur life forever i am who i am because of sem

    a yr u will never forget and a yr u can never go bk to and redo

    if u can go for it and make the best of it

    #801038
    yoyo56
    Member

    thanks everyone!!!

    all those who say it will change me in what way???

    i personally dont believe that men should sit and learn all day!

    #801039
    call me frum
    Member

    kylbdnr that is so sad. and yoyo it will change your whole perspective on life, and what is important. it doesn’t have to mean wanting a kollel husband

    #801040
    yoyo56
    Member

    could u explain to me how u changed

    #801041
    TheGoq
    Participant

    If she doesn’t feel its right for her then she shouldn’t waste her time and her parents money to go, there are alternatives here in America, there are seminaries here, she could go to college, she could get a job, it should not be mandatory it is not a one size fits all situation.

    #801042
    Queen Bee
    Member

    Yoyo56, this is all my personal opinion.

    Do you want to go because:

    #801043
    golden mom
    Member

    you wanna know how u can change (which has nothing to do with marrying a boy sitting and learning) first you are going to a diffrent country gonna be with diffrent girls then u were for the last 12-15 years in school with if you had a certain reputation nows the time to change you can become who u want nobody knows your family parents…

    you will be going away for shabbos try to broaden the types of familys you go to and you will be surprised how diffrent people raise there kids, talk to there spouses, hold a shabbos tish, and just keep house. Untill now u saw only one way. Its good to broaden ur outlook within the frum world a little bf u start ur own home i”yh

    You will learning not cuz “its gonna be on the test” but cuz u want to and u will learn and take with u more than u did in all 4 yrs of high school …i could go on and on

    #801044
    mommamia22
    Participant

    I went to sem both in America and Israel. I also went right after high school, during college, and after college/sem I went back to Israel to learn. Going right after high school has a unique experience to offer in that you will be together with girls you know or those your own age/grade. Being in Israel is unique in the sense that you have the opportunity to experience living in Eretz YISRAEL for a full year. You can travel the country, visit places you learned about in the tanach (you can do much more in a year than in a two week visit), and get to know and experience Yiddishkeit in eretz YISRAEL, which is unique and special in and of itself. Many girls I know chose to move to eretz YISRAEL to live because they learned there, and learned to love living there. The learning is also very special. They have some of the most amazing teachers there.

    We also have great teachers here too, who once lived there. Rebbetzin Vital Kalmanovitch…. What can I say….such a bracha to learn from her. Going to sem is different than being in high school. Your own maturity

    lends itself to a deeper level of learning and internalizing the information.

    #801045
    call me frum
    Member

    Yoyo I went to sem bec it was the thng to do, and I speficily chose one with no work bec I just wanted to have a fun year. I ended up gaining so much and my life has really changed since then. I reavaluated myself and where I was holding and realized I WANT to be frum and be the best Jew possible, whereas before I was just going with the flow, and nto really too happy with it. I don’t know if we’re going to convince you in the coffee room, but you should really speak to girls who went to seminary. Yes there will always be people that say it was a waste of a year, but I really feel those people are a minority. From my viewpoint, and most of my friends (and I have a lot who went to a alot of diff sems)it was NOT a waste of a year and they gained a lot

    #801046
    rfs
    Member

    i changed in the following ways (and most of my friends did too):

    1- a love of Israel, and the Jewish people. Its a wonderful feeling that stays with you throughout the rest of your life.

    2- Understanding and accepting people from different backgrounds. I met girls in my seminary who became super frum, and others who were struggling to keep kosher. I learned that we all have a lot in common, and to see everyone for who they are (i.e. less judging)

    3- Its a fun year, a gap year, to do whatever you’d like–the country is yours 🙂 After this, you’ll probably be studying in college, and you could probably use a break

    4-it did worlds for my connection with Hashem–He is so tangible in Israel.

    And many other ways….

    #801047
    MichaelC
    Member

    The Chofetz Chaim writes

    It seems that this [prohibition of teaching Torah to daughters] is only for the past, when each person would live in the location of his fathers, and one received one’s father’s traditions strongly, such that each person followed his fathers’ path, as it says in the verse “Ask your father and he will tell you” (Deuteronomy 32:7). Under those circumstances we could say that she should not study Torah and rely on her fathers regarding proper behavior. But now, due to our numerous sins, the reception from fathers is very much weakened, and it even happens that [children] do not live in the same location as fathers at all, particularly those who study the languages of the [other] nations. [Today], it is certainly a great mitzvah to teach them [our daughters] the Bible and also Prophets and Writings and the ethical teachings of the Sages, such as Tractate Avot and the book Menorat Hama’or, and the like, so that the will come to appreciate the truth of our holy faith. If not, they may deviate completely from the path of God and violate all the principles of the religion, God forbid. [Translation by Atid]

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