March 27, 2014 1:35 am at 1:35 am #612447
Can anyone please suggest a seminary for my friend? She’s a frum girl who goes to a Beis Yaakov-y school (it’s the only frum girls school in the city), but she’s more modern. She keeps halacha (davens every day, frum family) but like she listens to non-Jewish music and reads non-Jewish books. She’s very academic and wants to grow further in terms of knowledge and hashgapha while being accepted for her current level. I suggested Darchei Binah to her or maybe Levavi…..any info would be great! Also, do you know of any seminary programs for the summer that would fit her?March 27, 2014 3:04 am at 3:04 am #1010048oomisParticipant
Michlalah? Sharfman’s?March 27, 2014 3:41 am at 3:41 am #1010049UtahMember
MMY, Harova, Midreshit Tehilah. All are good places. Also sounds like you are an out of towner. talk to girls that are coming back from Isreal for Pesach (If there are any) or talk to anyone that just came back from Israel. They will have the best feel of the different seminaries and what type of girls they cater to.March 27, 2014 10:38 am at 10:38 am #1010050morahmomParticipant
Are you talking about applying for the coming year? It’s definitely a little late!March 27, 2014 11:23 am at 11:23 am #1010051from Long IslandParticipant
Sorry, but Michlalais for very, very serious girls who want to work on their hashkafa, with a very intensive academic program. Usually, Bais Yaacov girls do not go there tho.
Darchei Binah has a wonderful reputation for openness, BUT serious girls who are intent on working on themselves. the girls I know who came out of both schools are very frum, educated young women. (including my daughters)
Midreshed Ha’Rova is a great place for girls who have questions, BUT, I do not think their academic track is overly ambitious.March 27, 2014 11:46 am at 11:46 am #1010052
No, she’s only in 11th grade.
Also, I just want to add that she’s going to university and plans to work full-time after that.
Can you please tell me more about MMY, Harova, and Midreshit Tehilah? Are they for the summer or full-year?
Also, regarding Harova, what does “not very academic” mean? Everyone always throws that term around, but I don’t really have a grasp on it. Do you mean it’s more hashkafa/chessed based or that they’re not into tests/homework?March 27, 2014 11:49 am at 11:49 am #1010053no longer need seminaryMember
although it is a bit late to apply to seminary……..March 27, 2014 12:03 pm at 12:03 pm #1010054OURtorahParticipant
shalavim for women- its halahic modern orthodox and many of the teachers are charedi. ts is a great mix of dtaff anf allows you to grow and feel comfertable where you want to grow to.March 27, 2014 12:49 pm at 12:49 pm #1010055Sam2Participant
MMY sounds like it’s what she’s looking for. It’s very intensive learning-wise and the Hashkafa fits on the right-hand side of Dati Leumi. Either there or Michlala.March 27, 2014 2:25 pm at 2:25 pm #1010056popa_bar_abbaParticipant
Popa is the seminary expert.
You should go to BY half day, and teach at BY high school the other half day.March 28, 2014 1:06 am at 1:06 am #1010058
After talking to my friend she thinks that Midreshet Tehillah sounds really good for her!!!! But, she can probably only go for a summer…..I know that there is a Neve Summer Session mentioned on their website, but it has nothing to do with MT. Any summer seminaries that are like Midreshet Tehillah?March 28, 2014 1:58 am at 1:58 am #1010059
because she listens to goish music & reads secular books she is modern?March 28, 2014 2:36 am at 2:36 am #1010060
how would you describe those things? how would you describe modern?March 28, 2014 3:09 am at 3:09 am #1010061
Normal. No bad thoughts about the fact she listens to secular music. Many girls listen to secular music, but they’ll deny it.March 28, 2014 3:15 am at 3:15 am #1010062👑RebYidd23Participant
Modern is doing things that couldn’t possibly have been done in the past.March 28, 2014 3:48 am at 3:48 am #1010063
And listening to secular music could have been listened to in the past. Mai Haichon Ra’ayah (from here it’s a proof) that listening to secular does not deem a person modern!March 28, 2014 6:04 pm at 6:04 pm #1010065RisingSun613Member
Machon Raayah sounds PERFECT for her!March 30, 2014 2:11 pm at 2:11 pm #1010066Veltz MeshugenerMember
The OP is a ridiculous question. It is impossible to be modern and frum. This is the one thing that Charedim and Noah Feldman agree on.March 30, 2014 4:45 pm at 4:45 pm #1010067
Veltz Meshugener: Why is it impossible to be modern and frum?March 30, 2014 7:18 pm at 7:18 pm #1010068Burnt SteakParticipant
VM So you are saying that it is possible to live completely following Halacha and yet still not be frum?
There are many modern people who are more frum than yeshivish people. You can’t make that ridiculous statement. Where is your proof and who are you that you can say something like that.
What about someone like me who grew up in a small Jewish community not close to New York (I will not use the term “out of town” because I find “town” to be relative). I grew up modern and still am. Are you telling me that I am not frum?
I know that MMY and Harova are full year programs. I don’t know if they have a summer component.March 30, 2014 8:28 pm at 8:28 pm #1010069🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
burnt steak- I think he was trying to be funnyMarch 31, 2014 6:23 am at 6:23 am #1010070Burnt SteakParticipant
Could be, but I find it hard to detect the sarcasm in the post. I don’t know who Noah Feldman is, so if that is where it is then I missed it and took it way too literal.
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