November 22, 2021 5:10 pm at 5:10 pm #2032272ujmParticipant
TLIK: The Halacha explicitly says that Beis Din forces a person to marry if he refuses to by the halachic age.November 22, 2021 5:39 pm at 5:39 pm #2032290Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
currently, people get benefits before investing. You get house first and then pay mortgage instead of saving first as Gemora and Rambam recommend. So, it is possible to satisfy both opinions: marry early if a person is on the way to earn a living, whether a good solid job, like a plumber, or an uncertain one, as a lawyer. Those who reach the age without preparing to support the family are either relying on the emergency measure from 80 years ago, as mentioned above, or plan to marry someone who will agree to life in poverty, whic is a heilecke ting to do, or expect to live at someone else’s expense (hopefully freely giving in-laws and donors rather than unwitting taxpayers)November 22, 2021 6:05 pm at 6:05 pm #2032299GadolhadorahParticipant
“….or expect to live at someone else’s expense (hopefully freely giving in-laws and donors rather than unwitting taxpayers)…”
I’m not sure there is a reliable statistical source, but I would expect that the numbers of young frum families that rely primarily on government subsidies to get buy are much greater than the number of those fortunate enough to have wealthy in-laws writing the rent and tuition checks each month. Most ikely that many families rely on both sources of “income” but obviously would be better off if at least one is able to earn a parnassah and provide forat least a portion of their financial needs. Taxpayers providing a subsidy are NOT ‘unwitting” since the issue of high welfare dependency in certain communities are well known and politicians have refused to limit those payments or impose a “work” requirement or limit numbers of eligible dependents.November 22, 2021 8:11 pm at 8:11 pm #2032333Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
GH > high welfare dependency in certain communities are well known and politicians have refused to limit those payments
I don’t know who is using what sources, how would you know. There are bunch of yeshiva bochrim selling iphones on amazon. They might be losing on storage fees or be millionaires based on a hidden brochos.
as for using welfare sources, if you would have payments clearly going to Jewish recipients and community understands what it is for, then, I guess, you can say that the community is willing to support Torah studies and this is kosher. I doubt that this is the case, though. In most places, Jewish recipients are subsumed among larger numbers of non-Jews, and even when this is not so, a lot of government payments are coming from non-local sources, including federal.
Syag, if I remember correctly, claimed that government worker said to her that she is ok with supporting wonderful Jewish community. I think this is the same as when a store worker gives you free stuff – he is not the owner.
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