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    eidelmeidel123
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    I’m looking for a seminary and I have no idea what’s what!

    A little bit about myself…
    I live in a very small community that doesn’t really have one hashkafa. (To give an idea of how small, I’m the only teenage girl here.) Of my entire community, I think that I’d be considered the most right wing of everyone, even my own family. Unfortunately, I am in a pretty modern school right now. I ended up there kinda by accident. I applied during corona and never saw the school until I was practically registered and the first time I spoke to a current student, it was already my first day of school. I’m the most right wing girl at my school by far. The seminary guidance administrators have told me that they really don’t know what to do with me and said that I’m pretty much on my own unless I want to go to Michlalah.

    Okay so now what I’m looking for…
    My lashon kodesh skills aren’t fantastic but they’re not weak either. I’d say if I really tried, I could understand about 60-75% of whats going. (I’m no BJJer but I’m not so bad.) This being said, I like thinking critically and being challenged. (Dont confuse that with busy work though!)
    In terms of hashkafa, it could really go any way. BezH I’ll end up in a Bais Yaakov sem or something like it, but I’m flexible. Also, I have to think about what sems will take a girl from a school that is not a bais yaakov at all.

    Right now, I’m in a weird place with my hashkafa: I’ve begun taking on a lot more than what my family does (our minhag is 3 hours but I wait six, I wear very thick (70) tights or stockings only, I keep cholov yisroel and mostly pas as well, I stopped eating gebrokts, etc…) Becuase of this, the seminary I go to doesn’t necessarily need to match the hashkafa of my family.

    As of now, the most left wing school that I’m considering is Michlalah yet it’s still a strong possibility. I’ve heard generally positive things about both Bnos Avigayil and Machon Raaya.

    Overall, I just want a Heimish, warm seminary that will allow me to grow spiritually through learning torah, hashkafa, and critical life skills.
    The ultimate goal, for me, is to one day have a yiddishe family and home that I am proud of.

    Please help me or give me some guidance!

    #2232153
    yeshivaguy45
    Participant

    Bored troll/yeshiva bochur,
    If you’re a troll, go find something better to do.
    If you’re a yeshiva bochur, the zman started. Have a good zman!
    (Too many holes in this story)

    #2232172
    eidelmeidel123
    Participant

    Yeshivaguy45 I promise this is my real story. I’m hesitant to share more details online about my personal life but I’m just looking for help with seminary guidance.

    #2232187

    Consider taking some time to learn your father’s minhagim… if you stop some of your chumros, he can afford to spend some time with you and fulfill the suggestion to teach kids between 17 and 22. At the same time you can get a pt job to pay for the seminary of your choice.

    #2232192
    fish
    Participant

    your main concern should be the other girls attending the seminary you go to. spending a whole year away from home you’ll be most influenced by your friends, so make sure they are your level as far as ruchaniyus. good luck!

    #2232203
    FrumWhere
    Participant

    You are a very confused teenager. This is clearly not a criticism, since it is not your fault. In order to have a real “hashkafa”, you first must be somewhat grounded, and you clearly are not, as evidenced by the silly “chumros” you have adopted. And as made obvious by your choice of high schools (it is assumable from your description that there is a better high school available to you, since otherwise a confusing albeit sketchy explanation of why you are in the school you are in would be unnecessary).

    While chalav yisrael is a valid “chumra”, it probably is wrong to adopt if you live in a place where its availability is questionable, since young people need the nourishment milk products provide (as Rav Moshe zt”l discusses in regard to his heter for chalav stam). It is assumable that your community qualifies as a place of chalav yisrael scarcity. Pas yisrael is not a chumra with any validity for the ignorant, as evident in various discussions about the issue amongst contemporary poskim. Waiting 1 or 3 or 6 hours is not a “churma” issue, it is a minhag issue. If your Father’s family from way back had a minhag to wait 3 hours, that’s what you should do. If you have no way of ascertaining your family’s true custom, ask the local Rabbi, who will probably be able to figure out where you come from, or will tell you to keep your family’s custom if he can’t figure anything out. “Zibitzig Shtrimp” is a foolishness in your case, unless you are a descendant of serious Satmar chassidim. So your “churmros” need to go away.

    If your hashkafa in regard to choice of Seminary could “go either way”, that is a clear sign that your are a confused child, and you need guidance from someone with experience in dealing with such situations. Which is why I responded to your post. I happen to know such a person. She is an Israeli American who runs much of the program (particularly the night program) at Seminar, a seminary in Jerusalem. She is a wise woman, which is a rarity in this world in general, edited  If you can reach her, tell her that her close relative in Los Angeles suggested you call her. I obviously can’t give more information in this forum, but if your post is real, I am trying to help as best as I can.

    Good luck!

    #2232272
    commonsaychel
    Participant

    Try the Troller sem under the guidance of the Troller Rebbetzin, I hear it take care of all of the issues you mentioned plus it has an amazing creative writing class.

    #2232240
    zaidy78
    Participant

    Hatzlacha Rabba.

    Just to point out, Gebrocks on Pesach is NOT a chumrah. It’s a difference in minhagim. It is well known that the Chassam Sofer holds that if your family does eat Gebrocks you cannot change to not eat Gebrocks because that would lower your Simchas Yom Tov which is d’Oraysa.

    Just keep it in mind. It’s not a right or wrong. It’s different minhagim.

    #2232246
    sensibleyid
    Participant

    i one time asked my rebbe if i should marry a Michlalah girl and he kind of shrugged his shoulders and said “i did”
    there are definitely fine girls there. as one of the biggest seminaries its probably a good idea to get help getting roomed with a good chevra. also note that of course its very academic

    #2232361
    DaMoshe
    Participant

    The really frum seminaries won’t take you in given what you describe. So you switched from 3 hours to 6 – they prefer 12. Stockings that are 70? Keep going, as they say, “biz a hundred un tvuntzig!”
    Pas Yisrael is a good thing to take on. Chalav Yisrael is only good if you bad-mouth those who don’t keep it, that’s the more important part of the chumrah. After all, you’re not really holier than others if you don’t tell them so!
    Not eating gebrokts? You need the extra chumrah, not to drink any water at all at meals where you eat matzah. Except, of course, on the last day, when there is a minimum shiur of 8 glasses per meal, which you must drink while chewing on the matzah. Some are extra machmir to drink all 8 glasses within the short zman of 60 seconds.
    Please try keeping those chumros, and then the more serious seminaries will give you a shot.

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