December 30, 2015 9:50 am at 9:50 am #616935
I have someone who is not happy in her seminary and needs to change ideally for this year still.
We are open to ideas in England, America or Israel. We have already heard and looked into all the regular names that keep coming around such as Pninim/ Neimos, New Gateshead seminary and the manchester seminary but none of them seem to be right.
We need new names to look into.
There must be something out there for her,- this is what we are looking for;
A small, open minded place where every girl is accepted for who they are and where the staff are very warm. The lessons must be very interactive and discussion based for a very deep thinking and hashkafic girl but not academic. She has a number of emotional issues which need to be catered for and suffers from ADD (therefore lessons must be stimulating).
I also forgot to mention that she is quite young- 16 and is out of regular high school education for private reasons.
Please help us urgently.December 30, 2015 1:07 pm at 1:07 pm #1120725mazaltovMember
I suggest you look into Midreshet Lindenbaum/Darkaynu.
English speaking with more educational or more vocationalDecember 30, 2015 2:21 pm at 2:21 pm #1120726oomisParticipant
Darchei Binah?December 30, 2015 2:26 pm at 2:26 pm #1120727theprof1Participant
Yavneh in Cleveland, Great seminary and its small.December 30, 2015 3:21 pm at 3:21 pm #1120728
Do you have phone numbers for any of these places? And can you write a bit about them just so i get an idea rather than just a name such as what it specialises in, what age its for, what sort of girls and what part of my description it fits best.
Thanks so much.December 30, 2015 3:22 pm at 3:22 pm #1120729
Ateres Naava in Brooklyn NYDecember 30, 2015 3:33 pm at 3:33 pm #1120730
That’s a tall order! I wish you much hatzlacha sheva. Right now I can’t think of any. The small seminaries I know wouldn’t accept someone that young. I had a friend that age going to seminary and I remember it was awful for her to find a place….in the end she went to a chassidish place till she was 16, then couldn’t find a place for the next year as the first place closed down. She went back home to the USA and ended up getting engaged.
Just goes to show Hashem knows where you are going!!! Tell that to your friend/relative. She WILL be in the best place for her in the end-whether it’s a sem or something she didn’t expect.
I wish her much hatzlacha. I was thinking of Levavi. From what I heard it’s small, warm, and not too academic. I don’t know if they’d be willing to take her though.
Hatzlacha!!December 30, 2015 8:58 pm at 8:58 pm #1120731HashemisreadingParticipant
Machon Raaya?December 30, 2015 9:16 pm at 9:16 pm #1120732B1g B0yParticipant
I want a pony and a brand new car that is cheap enough for a kollel yungerman but expensive enough to turn heads.
URGENT please give your suggestions here.December 31, 2015 12:43 am at 12:43 am #1120733malloseismic_mortalMember
I second the suggestion that you look into Ateres Naava in Brooklyn. It is run by Rabbi Zecharia Wallerstein.January 1, 2016 6:20 am at 6:20 am #1120734
dont know what i did for my own personal reasons was go to college at that young age there really is so much a girl can do. Maybe touro and a new york night seminary?January 3, 2016 6:21 am at 6:21 am #1120735
Welcome back to the CR, your one-stop shop for girls’ institutions.January 3, 2016 6:27 am at 6:27 am #1120736
does anyone know how someone can get in contact with rabbi wallerstien regarding religious personal issues i know a girl who wants to get in contact with him?January 3, 2016 6:54 am at 6:54 am #1120737
Ateres Naava has a website, with the phone number for their office
on its contact page. They should be able to get you in touch with him.January 3, 2016 7:07 am at 7:07 am #1120739
okay thanks.January 3, 2016 11:21 am at 11:21 am #1120740
I have checked out the ateres naava website and the girls look a lot older to me, more like 18 year olds. Are you sure they would accept 16 year olds?
On the website i also saw that they have a school called bnot chaya academy, does anyone know anything about it?- are all the girls there from dysfunctional homes/ of the derech (as i get the picture from the little information on website). This girl has had it tough and suffered abuse as well as had stages of slipping a bit from the derech like struggles with shabbos etc however she still dresses with skirts on or a bit below the knee and not above and she doesn’t go out with boys. We dont want to put her in an institution where everyone else is in mini skirts and with boy friends and with dysfunctional homes.
Also does anyone have any more information on the other places that have been suggested; midreshet, lindenbaum, darkeynudarchei bina, yavne in cleveland and machon raaya.
I dont even know where some of these places are.
There are so many names going around that I wouldn’t know where to start. Its hard that they dont have websites.January 3, 2016 11:23 am at 11:23 am #1120741
And thank you everyone for your help. We need everyones tefillosJanuary 3, 2016 1:01 pm at 1:01 pm #1120742ABS-SAParticipant
Try seminar yerushalayimJanuary 3, 2016 1:01 pm at 1:01 pm #1120743
Lots of hatzlacha! Its a lot of research!!!!!! Just take a name and research it. First thing you should do is call/email all of them and ask if they would even listen to what you have to say. Simply state the facts and see how many no’s you get in the first 5 minutes or email.January 3, 2016 4:12 pm at 4:12 pm #1120744
neoimos. i think the best for her is to stay home and go to college and night seminary i know it might sound tough but its a good idea for someone her age who isnt in high school anymore.January 3, 2016 4:42 pm at 4:42 pm #1120745
Ateres naava is not run by rabbi wallerstien. It is run by rav Yackov yitzchok greenberg. Ohr naava is run by wallerstien. Ateres naava is a post high school seminary. The age of such girls is typically 18 and up. This thread asked for seminary not high school assistance. What you are really looking for is a place for a 16 year old that is not a high school.January 3, 2016 6:07 pm at 6:07 pm #1120746
Well were not looking for the typical high school since we aren’t looking for something academic at all so thats what led us to think that a seminary or similar sort of program however if there is a high school that is not at all focused on academics but rather a more hashkafic, emotional, warm and caring place then we would consider it.
To put it plainly, we are looking for an institution or program that would fill these criteria.January 3, 2016 6:29 pm at 6:29 pm #1120747
sheva – why not send her to college during the day and let her get a good degree and go to seminary at night (for hashkafa)?January 3, 2016 7:28 pm at 7:28 pm #1120748
yes, that is ideally what we would have liked to do however due to her ADD she would not get down to anything and needs a very structured setting. its a tough one.
she is also in desperate need of an away-from-home setting and a place to give her the right emotional help to prepare her for life.January 3, 2016 8:03 pm at 8:03 pm #1120749
i also have add i did what i keep saying for her to do. it is VERY hard for me every day i hope i dont cause a chilul Hashem when i leave the classroom because i get distracted and need to leave and take a walk or get a snack, etc… or texting during class to take a break…but my teachers know about the issues with me because i told them and the school told them so its not a chilul Hashem they know i have issues…. in the beginning it was rough but now i also am enjoying it and im gonna do something in the med field h’h and make lots of money to support my husband in kollel. i would definitely recommend it and if she needs to bored and go to college and go to a night seminary she can do that too.January 3, 2016 8:44 pm at 8:44 pm #1120750
i am just very skeptical as to whether this would work for her since she really needs a lot of structure. i have discussed your option with her however we both feel it would not work since she really has no self motivation.January 3, 2016 8:50 pm at 8:50 pm #1120751
Again Hatzlacha.January 3, 2016 9:23 pm at 9:23 pm #1120752
maybe she needs to talk to a psychologist because if she has low self motivation to do anything she probably needs someone to give it to her like a psychologist. College is a great place to help people make them into a someone. she can go become a doctor and be very religious and she can start at a community college and then when shes ready to switch she can switch to an actual college and then go become whatever kind of doctor or whatever kind of good job she wants. I use to be the same way i never thought i would make it thru but my parents pushed me. maybe you can mentor her and help her get into college and seminary and help her through her difficulties if she doesnt have parents to help her do that?January 3, 2016 11:35 pm at 11:35 pm #1120753flatbusherParticipant
I don’t want to sound negative but this young woman sounds she has multiple issues and some of the suggestions of mainstream seminaries don’t sound right. Why do you think a 16-year-old should even be in seminary? And switching in the middle of the year sounds like a difficult enough task without even really knowing which way to go, so given her issues isn’t upheaval something that should be avoided? I agree she should discuss with her psychologist what to do.January 4, 2016 12:11 am at 12:11 am #1120754
i agree its not right for girls who have serious issues if all the issues are add and the girl is able to work around it and get help from a psychologist than she can manage college and seminary but if not then she should look into her issues further.January 4, 2016 3:20 am at 3:20 am #1120755
Oops. Ohr Naava is indeed the one Rabbi Wallerstein is involved with. They also have a contact page with their phone number.January 4, 2016 5:25 am at 5:25 am #1120756
If she has multiple issues it will be hard for her to get into a mainstream sem, but I have friends trying to do it for seminary. Everyone needs different things. I have a friend with much similar issues (its actually a bit creepy) and she B”H is going to therapy and from what it seems to me-almost all her issues stem from 1 root and therapy can get rid of over half of them. People who have been maintstreamed there whole life-such as finishing high school in a normal place should definetly go to sem. I don;t think my friend is telling the sem of her issues as B”H they will get better and she knows how judgemental people can be. She says she has made it till now, she can do it again.
But this girl is 16, and I don’t think she will be able to interact on a healthy level with 18 normal mainstreamed girls who B”H most did not get abused and so on….
But that’s just my opinion-who ever listens to that?January 4, 2016 5:52 am at 5:52 am #1120757
shopping – i definitely agree even me as the same age as the other girls might have issues because im use to being independent and living a “college frum girl life” thats why i recommended her to go to college and psychologist at the same time. i only took 2 psychology classes so cant help her much unfortunately since i dont know as much as a psychologist.January 4, 2016 7:38 pm at 7:38 pm #1120758
Ohr Naava is not a seminary. It is a night program for women. I do suggest calling Rabbi Wallerstien or Rabbi Ronnie Greenwald about this particular girl though to see what they can advise.January 6, 2016 12:40 pm at 12:40 pm #1120759This name is already takenParticipant
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