Sephardim minhag origin?
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June 17, 2019 1:30 pm at 1:30 pm #1743511The FrumguyParticipant
Does someone know the origin and reason for that shrill scream sound made by Sephardim at Simchos?
June 17, 2019 2:49 pm at 2:49 pm #1743522RedlegParticipantThe “shrill scream to which you refer has a name. In English, it’s called ululation and it is common for festivities in Arab and other Middle Eastern cultures.
June 17, 2019 2:49 pm at 2:49 pm #1743540JosephParticipantDid Sephardim ever discontinue permitting having multiple wives (other than when moving to countries where secular law prevented it)? If so, which and when?
June 17, 2019 2:49 pm at 2:49 pm #1743562Yabia OmerParticipantIt’s called a ululation. I am guessing it is borrowed from the local Arab culture in which they lived?
June 17, 2019 4:15 pm at 4:15 pm #1743621Neville ChaimBerlinParticipantIslam.
June 17, 2019 6:45 pm at 6:45 pm #1743650ocho sincoParticipantDaas zekeinim says it’s from yaakov avinus wedding
People we’re yelling “hee Leah hee Leah”June 17, 2019 6:45 pm at 6:45 pm #1743649ocho sincoParticipantRabbi Ben tzion Shaifer from “the shmuz” says in one of his lectures, quoting the Daas zekeinim mibaalei tosfos that it’s meant to be saying “hee Leah” she’s Leah. Commemorating Yaakov and Leah s wedding where people did tried using that sound to hint that it’s really Leah and not Rochell
June 17, 2019 6:45 pm at 6:45 pm #1743641The FrumguyParticipantDid anyone hear that it’s to scare off the Ayin Harah?
June 23, 2019 4:03 pm at 4:03 pm #1745774Yabia OmerParticipantI wouldn’t look too deeply in it. It’s like clapping. We wouldn’t make such a chakira on clapping. So hu hadin by ululations… It’s simply a Middle Eastern form of happiness.
June 23, 2019 11:10 pm at 11:10 pm #1745928Grey matterParticipantSephardim as a group didn’t officially ever discontinue polygamy although the level of prevalence has varied. In some Sephardic communities it prob didn’t really exist at least not over the last 200 yrs or so
June 24, 2019 3:07 pm at 3:07 pm #1746217user176ParticipantRegarding marrying more than one wife. In my community the minhag is to put this restriction as a tnai in the ketuva: that he won’t marry another woman unless she is with him ten consecutive years and she didn’t have any zera shel kayama.
June 24, 2019 6:37 pm at 6:37 pm #1746280JosephParticipant“Regarding marrying more than one wife. In my community the minhag is to put this restriction as a tnai in the ketuva: that he won’t marry another woman unless she is with him ten consecutive years and she didn’t have any zera shel kayama.”
User176: In your Sephardic community men who didn’t have children for 10 years marry a second wife?
June 25, 2019 12:29 am at 12:29 am #1746460Grey matterParticipantIn some communities it is customary to put in that tenai. It means if that would CS happen it would theoretically be acceptable to marry another wife that isn’t actually practiced in today’s day and age.
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