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Why are people makpid to say Shabbos instead of Saturday and Motzei Shabbos instead of Saturday night but not Leil Shabos instead of Friday night and Erev Shabbos instead of Friday?
simcha613, I don’t know what your talking about! My family is Makpid with all of that stuff!
Who isn’t makpid to say Erev Shabbos or Leil Shabbos? Almost everyone I know is and does.
So it would appear people are not being makpid to refer to times based on Shabos (hayom yom..), but on saying Shabos instead of Saturday.
Ah Gutten Erev Shabbos.
I don’t think there are any standards. I know frum people who do all the different things you mention. Okay, only one person I know calls Shabbos Saturday, but all the others are pretty common.
I don’t think I know more than one person who calls Friday night Leil Shabbos, though.
Who isn’t makpid to say Erev Shabbos or Leil Shabbos? Almost everyone I know is and does.
If I told my boss that I would check my email or run a stored procedure on Motzei Shabbos, she would have no idea what I was talking about.
The Wolf
I hold there’s probably an issue of Chukas Hagoyim in referring to the English names of the week (Sunday, Monday, etc.). Sometimes I have to though if there’s no other way to explain what I’m trying to say. I haven’t found myself any Limud Z’chus yet other than the fact that since almost everyone does it, it must not actually be Assur.
Your question Simcha613 is very well founded & taken.
To me Shabbos nite is from sunset/nitefall on a Friday until Alos haShachar on a Saturday morning. REason:- Because this is the nite as abstain from Melocho, as per the 4th commandment in the Torah.
Saturday nite thru Sunday morning, by definition is Leil Rishon, or Motzei Shabbos, but certainly is not Shabbos nite, because on that nite I perform Melocho all the way from lighting & extinguishing a Havdolo candle + a lot more.
Even this Saturday nite I shall be performing Melocho when I light my Yaknehaz lite, and then Saturday nite 7 weeks later, I shall also be performing Melocho, when I light my Yaknehaz lite & then carry my Tikkun Leil Shovu’os on Broadway [A Reshus hoRabim miDeOraisso] to Shul.
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