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April 11, 2024 8:10 pm at 8:10 pm #2276486akupermaParticipant
How long before we can use self-driving cars on Shabbos? The seems less problematic than the scooters.
What about a “tablet” computer that can accept commands just as a scooter accepts directions, which can help with learning and davening (on a special Shabbos, it would display all the special things of the day).
And if using electric devices on Shabbos is no longer a shailoh, why is it a problem to turn lights on or off?
Will there be any meaningful differences between “frum” and “Conservative”?
April 11, 2024 10:58 pm at 10:58 pm #2276498GadolhadorahParticipant“Will there be any meaningful differences between “frum” and “Conservative”?
Seems like the “frum” are already bending themselves into pretzels in relying on “technology” to enjoy all the benefits of a “conservative” lifestyle while claiming they are still living strictly in accordance with halacha.
April 11, 2024 11:06 pm at 11:06 pm #2276502☕️coffee addictParticipantAkuperma,
Why would it be מותר?
One can’t use an Alexa on shabbos
April 11, 2024 11:06 pm at 11:06 pm #2276503AviraDeArahParticipant“And if using electric devices on Shabbos is no longer a shailoh, why is it a problem to turn lights on or off?”
Are you joking? Poskim will not allow the use of electricity in any form on shabbos.
April 11, 2024 11:07 pm at 11:07 pm #2276505ujmParticipantakuperma: Do you turn on a television before Shabbos and leave it on the whole Shabbos so you can watch the game and whatever else interesting is running on Saturday.
Doing so is far far far “less problematic than” riding in self-driving cars on Shabbos.
The Reform started out by making changes that were technically not a clearcut or outright violation of halacha.
April 11, 2024 11:10 pm at 11:10 pm #2276507Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantHow is it different from shabbos elevators and all corresponding halachos?
April 12, 2024 7:56 am at 7:56 am #2276622YFRBachurParticipantBemichilas Kvod the star-k and its poskim – they are more or less a daas yachid when it comes to grama.
Most poskim do not agree that what they call grama is in fact gramaApril 12, 2024 9:20 am at 9:20 am #2276631☕️coffee addictParticipantI see that it’s in reference to the scooter.
We are more meikel when it comes to חולים
April 13, 2024 10:14 pm at 10:14 pm #2276981IshpurimParticipantThe Pittsburgh Platform initiated American Reform by changing Shabbos to Sunday because of…. Conservative allowed driving to shul. The Shab-bus in Jersey transports Yidden to shul. These tactics were for religious purposes only.
April 13, 2024 11:20 pm at 11:20 pm #2276993koshervyosherParticipantThis is for cholim only…See a boro park based company doing the same thing with haskomos from many Poskim
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