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    akuperma
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    How long before we can use self-driving cars on Shabbos? The seems less problematic than the scooters.

    What about a “tablet” computer that can accept commands just as a scooter accepts directions, which can help with learning and davening (on a special Shabbos, it would display all the special things of the day).

    And if using electric devices on Shabbos is no longer a shailoh, why is it a problem to turn lights on or off?

    Will there be any meaningful differences between “frum” and “Conservative”?

    #2276498
    Gadolhadorah
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    “Will there be any meaningful differences between “frum” and “Conservative”?

    Seems like the “frum” are already bending themselves into pretzels in relying on “technology” to enjoy all the benefits of a “conservative” lifestyle while claiming they are still living strictly in accordance with halacha.

    #2276502
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Akuperma,

    Why would it be מותר?

    One can’t use an Alexa on shabbos

    #2276503
    AviraDeArah
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    “And if using electric devices on Shabbos is no longer a shailoh, why is it a problem to turn lights on or off?”

    Are you joking? Poskim will not allow the use of electricity in any form on shabbos.

    #2276505
    ujm
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    akuperma: Do you turn on a television before Shabbos and leave it on the whole Shabbos so you can watch the game and whatever else interesting is running on Saturday.

    Doing so is far far far “less problematic than” riding in self-driving cars on Shabbos.

    The Reform started out by making changes that were technically not a clearcut or outright violation of halacha.

    #2276507

    How is it different from shabbos elevators and all corresponding halachos?

    #2276622
    YFRBachur
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    Bemichilas Kvod the star-k and its poskim – they are more or less a daas yachid when it comes to grama.
    Most poskim do not agree that what they call grama is in fact grama

    #2276631
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    I see that it’s in reference to the scooter.

    We are more meikel when it comes to חולים

    #2276981
    Ishpurim
    Participant

    The Pittsburgh Platform initiated American Reform by changing Shabbos to Sunday because of…. Conservative allowed driving to shul. The Shab-bus in Jersey transports Yidden to shul. These tactics were for religious purposes only.

    #2276993
    koshervyosher
    Participant

    This is for cholim only…See a boro park based company doing the same thing with haskomos from many Poskim
    Rav. y Roth ZTL
    and yblcht”a
    R Shlomo miller
    R Moshe Heinemann
    R mm Weissmandl
    Others
    https://www.gramachip .com/haskamos

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