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  • #618764
    Lightbrite
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    Do I need a special tissue box for Shabbos?

    Sometimes I just grab the box from the other room that I was previously using for my nose and then designate it as the Shabbos bathroom tissues.

    I wonder if I need to get special tissues, maybe a different fancier brand, to use on Shabbat.

    #1196850
    Joseph
    Participant

    Many brands of tissues are attached to each other, as a mechanism of one tissue pulling the next out of the box, and tear when you take a tissue out. They cannot be used on Shabbos.

    #1196851
    Lightbrite
    Participant

    No?! I’ve seen regular tissues at a rabbi’s home. I never analyzed the box or anything. Were they special tissues?

    My LOS only uses tissues. I wonder if they use a different box on Shabbos and Yom Tom. I didn’t notice.

    What do you use then? Pre-pulled out tissues or pre-ripped tp?

    Or is there a special brand?

    Btw: I don’t believe it. One tissue is generally tucked under the next. So when it’s pulled up, it snags the other to come up too. No ripping/tearing. Same with baby wipes.

    What kind of tissues are you talking about? Prove your pudding please (PYPP)

    #1196852
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    No, you don’t. I never even heard of someone doing that. Although, of course, you do have to be careful about the issue that Joseph raised. Aspen and Alpine are both fine in terms of that.

    #1196853
    Lightbrite
    Participant

    Really really? Interesting

    B”H [kinda embarrassing but] 100% Great Value tissues are totally normal. No tearing. Just tissue into tissue.

    #1196854
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    Lightbrite – In some tissue boxes, the tissues are not attached, and you are not ripping when you take one out. In some tissue boxes, all of the tissues are attached by perforated lines, and when you pull one out you are ripping.

    You can check the box before Shabbos. Simply pull up a tissue lightly. If it’s attached you will see, because it will stay partially attached if pulled lightly. Also, if it had been attached and pulled off, you should be able to see the perforations at the end.

    Another way to tell – if thye are folded up, I think that means they are unattached.

    #1196855

    joseph

    Lightbrite is correct. no tissues in boxes are connected they are just folded into each other forcing the next to come out.

    versus roles of toilet paper or paper towel which are legally & halachicly attached although they do have lines assigned to wrip it apart

    #1196856
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    What’s an LOS? Local Orthodox Sister?

    #1196857
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    Or would that be Local Orthodox Shul?

    You do have to be careful in shuls. Sometimes, they have those tissue dispensers and the tissues are (always? usually? sometimes?) attached in those things. That’s why many shuls will have ripped up toilet paper or tissue boxes on Shabbos.

    #1196858
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    MA – there are tissues that are connected – it depends on the brand. Unless they stopped making those kinds.

    And I know there can be a problem in shuls because I was nichshal recently.

    How can a tissue be folded into another? I don’t think that any of the brands I use work that way.

    #1196859
    kapusta
    Participant

    Aspen and Alpine are both fine in terms of that.

    Not always. Sometimes several are connected lightly at the ends, depending on the box, and on a rare occasion the glue from the box attaches a stack of tissues. I think Alpine has a special box designated for Shabbos use. Kleenex brand seems to be completely detached.

    #1196860
    Lightbrite
    Participant

    Yes Local Orthodox Shul.

    #1196861
    yehudayona
    Participant

    Using tissue in place of toilet paper is not a good idea. Tissues are meant to stay together when wet, toilet paper is made to fall apart.

    It’s been years since I’ve seen tissues that are connected. There may be some Brand X tissues that are, but I value my nose too much to use them.

    #1196862
    Lightbrite
    Participant

    kapusta: Yes on imamother they recommend Kleenex. The only downside is some types may clog pipes.

    Just Googled it and saw that….

    There is a Shabbos Tissues invention where a tissue box attaches to the tp roll, hanging upside down. It’s interesting to say the least.

    One advertised benefit is that it saves money, since tissues are expensive. I honestly don’t think tissues are expensive. Then again, I am one person. For a house full of children, and a shul, maybe this would be a better option. Dunno.

    #1196863
    Lightbrite
    Participant

    “Using tissue in place of toilet paper is not a good idea. Tissues are meant to stay together when wet, toilet paper is made to fall apart.”

    yehudayona: Wow. I never thought about that. It’s so true!!! Even when I run out of tissues and use tp to wipe my nose, I notice that tp doesn’t absorb the same way. Obviously, I never thought about that. It’s not meant to just hold moisture and stay in one piece.

    I thought most people use tissues on Shabbos. What do you use?

    #1196864
    Sam2
    Participant

    LU: You don’t see perforated tissues anymore. What does happen, though, is that you see some brands of tissues connected at each corner. That’s also an Issur D’Oraisa of Korei’a.

    #1196865
    Lightbrite
    Participant

    Rewind please: Maybe LU is talking about Israeli tissues.

    I remember using tissue “boxes” that were the same size and rectangular-ness as standard tissue boxes in Israel. Yet they were inside a plastic bag kind of thing. Like how you can buy milk in plastic bags instead of cartons or jugs.

    Those tissues were pink or colorful. I wonder if they were connected. Maybe I am making up this memory, but they seemed different than a box of Kleenex, Puffs, etc in the US. Maybe just less soft and more neon. Hmm.

    #1196866
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    Sam2 & LB – I wasn’t talking about EY. I have lived in both countries, and it was in the US that I remember seeing tissues like that. I don’t think that I’ve seen them for years, but since I stick to the brands that aren’t like that (Alpine and Aspen when I’m in the US), I wasn’t sure if they still exist or not. From Joseph’s comment, I thought they do.

    But I guess he was talking about what you are talking about, Sam.

    “Aspen and Alpine are both fine in terms of that.”

    Kapusta: “Not always. Sometimes several are connected lightly at the ends, depending on the box, and on a rare occasion the glue from the box attaches a stack of tissues. I think Alpine has a special box designated for Shabbos use. Kleenex brand seems to be completely detached.”

    Thank you for the info, Kapusta. I wasn’t aware of that. I don’t remember ever having a problem, but maybe I only bought the special Shabbos kind.

    #1196867
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    “I thought most people use tissues on Shabbos. What do you use?”

    You can rip up toilet paper before Shabbos. That’s what we used to do in EY back in the day when tissues were considered a luxury and a waste of money in EY. Apparently, they also used to do that in the US, because my grandfather, a”h told me that he remembers cutting up t.p. before Shabbos when he went to his grandparents for Shabbos.

    In the US, the sewage system is much weaker than it is in EY, and using tissues can cause clogging, especially in NJ, and I think maybe especially in basement apartments.

    However, I don’t think it’s an issue in EY.

    #1196868
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    They also sell cut up t.p. in the stores (or is that only in EY? I can’t remember because I never buy it).

    And one of the tissues brands is supposed to be safe for toilets (at least that’s what it says on the box.) I think it was Alpine.

    #1196869
    WinnieThePooh
    Participant

    Israeli tissues that come in bags are folded one inside the other, so when you pull one out of the bag, the next is pulled so that it sticks out. They are not glued/attached together. But you cannot open the package on the perforation on shabbos, so when we buy them, I automatically open all the packages before I put them away. The tissues are not as thick and soft as American brands (my poor nose!), and they definitely disintegrate when they are wet. Just ask my kids who like to play with tissues in the bath, and then I have to clean up all these little soggy crumbs of tissue before they clog up the drain.

    #1196870
    yehudayona
    Participant

    We take a roll of toilet paper and a pair of gezunte scissors and cut through the toilet paper right on the roll (you obviously can’t do it in one cut, but you can easily do it in several). It’s quick but the length of the resulting strips of tissue varies depending on whether they’re from the inside or the outside of the roll.

    #1196871
    Meno
    Participant

    “We take a roll of toilet paper and a pair of gezunte scissors and cut through the toilet paper right on the roll (you obviously can’t do it in one cut, but you can easily do it in several). It’s quick but the length of the resulting strips of tissue varies depending on whether they’re from the inside or the outside of the roll.”

    My father uses a box cutter, it works really well. Once I got married I wanted to do it also, but my wife doesn’t like the varying lengths

    #1196872
    takahmamash
    Participant

    I can see this burning question of the day (cut TP or tissues?) added to questions for families investigating shidduchim, right after “which brand of paper towels do they use – Bounty or Brawny?” and “do they stack plates at the table?”

    #1196873
    Lightbrite
    Participant

    Cutting the roll is the most genius idea!

    Thanks for the tips

    #1196874
    CTLAWYER
    Participant

    We have always used ‘Interfold’ toilet tissue for Shabbos. This is the type of toilet tissue that fits in the rectangular dispenser in public stalls. It is readily available from Amazon or local Janitorial supply houses.

    We also use this type of paper towels for Shabbos

    #1196875
    yehudayona
    Participant

    The problem with the interfold TP is that it’s tiny. It’s also not sold everywhere.

    #1196876
    CTLAWYER
    Participant

    Yehudayona………

    Generation gap time. When I was school age, the Interfold toilet tissue was the only type one found in the stalls. Somehow, generations of American students, and the public as a whole, managed just fine with it.

    I mentioned Amazon for those who don’t see it in local stores. It is also available thru Staples and Office Depot.

    #1196878
    yehudayona
    Participant

    CTL, I’m not that much younger than you, and I don’t remember seeing interfold toilet paper except in shuls and the like. Maybe it’s a Connecticut thing, like ketchup on hot dogs is a Chicago thing.

    #1196879
    WinnieThePooh
    Participant

    “ketchup on hot dogs is a Chicago thing” ??

    I eat ketchup on hot dogs, and have only been to Chicago once, and that was limited to its airport.

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