January 15, 2020 8:45 am at 8:45 am #18229161Participant
You people who voted for Cuomo and DiBlasio voted to make NYS and NYC unsafe. But the only thing you cared about was the askan gravy train. Shame on you!!!January 15, 2020 11:02 am at 11:02 am #1822954
Your title is an ignorant slam of people who may have voted Democrat. HOWEVER, Cuomo and DiBlasio were on other party ballots as well. You didn’t slam those who voted Working Families, Independence or Women’s Equality parties line.
Your bias against Democrats is despicable. Your title should have been about these two men you don’t like.
BTW>>>>>Many of the CR readers don’t live in NYC and could not have voted for these two men, many don’t live in NYS and could not have voted for Cuomo. The world does not revolve around the 5 Boros.January 15, 2020 1:10 pm at 1:10 pm #1823050ubiquitinParticipant
“The world does not revolve around the 5 Boros.”
what do you mean? Are there other boros?January 15, 2020 1:10 pm at 1:10 pm #18230271Participant
Stop masking the bigger issues. The socialists will come for CT as well. Make no mistake about it.January 15, 2020 1:10 pm at 1:10 pm #1823034lowerourtuition11210Participant
CTL: You just busted my bubble. I thought the world did revolve around the 5 boros. =DJanuary 15, 2020 1:17 pm at 1:17 pm #1822979lowerourtuition11210Participant
1: It is not the “askan gravy train”. It is the reality of living in NY where there is token republican opposition to the democrat party candidates. Even if every frum yid voted for the republican candidate it would not out weigh the democrat party voting bloc and whatever leverage we have as a community would be totally diluted.January 15, 2020 1:18 pm at 1:18 pm #1822992funnyboneParticipant
People need to understand that they can have opinions without denigrating others. That being said, I always vote for for both socially and fiscally conservative candidates.January 15, 2020 1:18 pm at 1:18 pm #1822993RebbeDebbieParticipant
When are you moving to a republican state? Texas is a great state for frum Jews.January 15, 2020 1:20 pm at 1:20 pm #1823012
As lawyers are wont to do you’re making a straw man
1) people who are voting “working party” with deblasio’s name (which happens to be the same guy as the democrat) are voting democrat and they know it they just don’t want to be blamed for voting for a democrat
2) 1 isn’t referring to those people that live oot obviously
When you do the same to republicans who voted for trump you’re not blaming the democrats who didn’t vote for Hillary but it’s essentially “their fault” tooJanuary 15, 2020 1:29 pm at 1:29 pm #1823085January 15, 2020 4:15 pm at 4:15 pm #1823175
Cuomo received a very small percent of the fum vote in the general election. Check the voting results in majority Orthodox voting districts.January 15, 2020 5:28 pm at 5:28 pm #1823204
Joseph, did you see my post where he is providing grants?January 15, 2020 5:32 pm at 5:32 pm #1823218
Of course the world doesn’t revolve around all 5 boroughs. It revolves around Brooklyn.January 15, 2020 6:25 pm at 6:25 pm #1823222
Reb Eliezer, so what? Since when does some gelt allow us to support a supporter of mishkav zochor, abortion, suicide, etc?January 15, 2020 7:31 pm at 7:31 pm #1823288
Sometimes the candidates on the minor party tickets are D or R, sometimes they are not
I voted for a minor party candidate for Town Council this yearJanuary 15, 2020 7:32 pm at 7:32 pm #1823287
Not all socialism is a bad thing
I like my Social Security Check, and Medicare coverage
I like public highways, schools, libraries, police and fire and EMS as wellJanuary 15, 2020 7:32 pm at 7:32 pm #1823286
Here in CT we have the:
Borough of Naugatick with a brand new Yeshiva
The Borough of Woodmont (part of the City of Milford) with a shul dating back to the 1920s, formerly a summer shul, now a year round Chabad shul
Other boroughs include Fenwick in Old Saybrook at the confluence of the CT River and Long Island Sound. Actress Katharine Hepburn lived there on the point. Stonington, Litchfield, Bantam and 3 others. Most are waterfront (lakes or coastal) and may also be consolidated with a town of the same name,
For our British CR members in Gilbert ans Sullivan’s HMS Pinnafore, Sir Joseph Porter (First Lord of the Admiralty) sings a song which includes the line:
“I grew so rich that I was sent
By a pocket borough into Parliament.
I always voted at my party’s call,
And I never thought of thinking for myself at all.
I thought so little, they rewarded me
By making me the Ruler of the Queen’s Navee!”January 15, 2020 8:52 pm at 8:52 pm #1823293
Joseph, you don’t have to do any of it.January 15, 2020 8:53 pm at 8:53 pm #1823295
That doesn’t negate what I’m saying
The minor party candidate is usually a democrat or republican (sometimes not though) so if the minor party candidate is also a major party candidate you’re in essence voting for the major party candidateJanuary 15, 2020 9:02 pm at 9:02 pm #1823305
Reb Eliezer, would you vote for a candidate who wants to permit public nudity or incest since you don’t have to engage in such behavior even if it’s legal?January 15, 2020 11:53 pm at 11:53 pm #1823326JzqParticipant
Bloomberg all the wayJanuary 16, 2020 1:46 pm at 1:46 pm #1823449
Public nudity involves me personally seeing it on the street, so does the behavior of incest and the same gender
leading to Public Display of Affection (PDA). Most people don’t do abortiion only in case of dire circumstances.January 16, 2020 1:46 pm at 1:46 pm #1823377yuda the maccabiParticipant
when will a the Jews realize that they’re not Americans they are JewsJanuary 16, 2020 1:46 pm at 1:46 pm #1823394
When one votes for a candidate on a minor Party line instead of the D or R lines, than the voter is saying I do not endorse the party or its platform. That is the important differenceJanuary 16, 2020 5:35 pm at 5:35 pm #1823614
Reb Eliezer, so why are you voting for the candidates who are much bigger supporters of mishkav zochor?January 16, 2020 5:35 pm at 5:35 pm #1823633
The candidate is following his party’s platform and they know it, most of the time it’s just shtickJanuary 16, 2020 8:33 pm at 8:33 pm #1823664
Joseph, what about caring for the poor and not throwing them into the water and telling them, sink or swim?January 17, 2020 1:00 am at 1:00 am #1823680
Reb Eliezer, virtually no candidate supports what you describe. And it is no excuse to vote for a mishkav zochor supporter.January 17, 2020 8:25 am at 8:25 am #1823721
Are you aware that you don’t have to be a registered member of a party to run on their ticket?
In our area, this year the Dems ran 2 candidates for Board of Education and 4 for Town Council who are not party members. They all won seats. They may caucus with the Ds but are not beholden to vote the party line.
Senator Sanders is running for the D nominayion, but is an elected independent, not a Dem.January 17, 2020 12:41 pm at 12:41 pm #1823807RebbeDebbieParticipant
CT, Sanders runs as a democrat because no true American would cast a vote for a Communist Party candidate.January 18, 2020 8:56 pm at 8:56 pm #1823983
Rebbie Debbie, how do you define a true American?January 18, 2020 8:58 pm at 8:58 pm #1823981
The Independent Senator Sanders is not a Communist, but you spread lies.
There is no such thing as a true American. That is white supremacist talk and they hate you (and me).
It is perfectly legal for a Communist Party candidate to run for office in the USA. This is not the 1950s Joe McCarthy era.
In the 1970s I hated my local war hawk Congressman and his other major party pro Viet Nam War opponent, so I voted for Joelle Fishman the Communist Party candidate in CT third district. i was anti-war, but a TRUE AmericanJanuary 19, 2020 5:33 am at 5:33 am #1824011
CTLAWYER, as much as we may disagree with certain qualifications for what makes a true American, I find it odd to say that there is no such thing as one.January 19, 2020 12:31 pm at 12:31 pm #1824047
Yet sanders isn’t running as a Republican and the reason being is because he’s more in line with the democrats
So if someone votes for a democrat under the “working family” ticket he’s still voting democratJanuary 19, 2020 12:33 pm at 12:33 pm #1824058
I post that there is no such thing as a ‘true American’ because the term is one without an official definition. It changes to suit the speaker.
Does it mean citizen, native born, patriot, supporter of the current government?
These days I find it used to accuse non-followers of the political right of being less than ‘American’
If one googles true American the responses are about a drinking game.
In the early 1970s when I was protesting the war in Viet Nam I was accused of not being a True American. I took my chances in the draft lottery unlike Private Bone Spurs or GW Bush pretending to fly jets in the Texas Air National Guard while not showing up regularly.
I am active in politics, have never missed voting since I was able to vote in 1972, pay my taxes and am not afraid to question government officials. Nowhere is it written that an Anerican has to have blind allegiance to any elected officialApril 21, 2020 2:38 am at 2:38 am #1851246Burnt SteakParticipant
@CTLAWYER I just searched True American and it looks like a fascinating game!April 21, 2020 10:15 am at 10:15 am #1851292commonsaychelParticipant
Stupid blanket statement to make, I was the village chairman of the GOP committee for a number of years until the local anti frum hijacked the party and turned it into the anti frum party, now on a local level I vote minor party and on the top of the ballot vote GOPApril 21, 2020 10:17 am at 10:17 am #1851335MistykinsParticipant
I live near Lakewood (Gov Murphy). If the planet rotated a bit differently, then yes, my world would revolve around 5 Boros.
But when it comes to being a True American, most of us should be ashamed. Someone showed me a video the other day, an American boy and an immigrant. The immigrant could answer questions about our country that the American couldn’t, and I’m sure many people here can’t either.
CTL, forgive me for banning you from answering. How many people here can tell me how many people serve in the House of Representatives? Who takes over leader ship if chas v’shalom Trump and Pence are unable? When was the constitution signed?
These are all questions on the USA citizenship test, but do we know the answer? Do people realize how important it is to stay involved in politics beyond our president?
As Yuda asked, when will the Jews realize they are Jews, not Americans? Hopefully people can realize they’re both before it’s too late.April 21, 2020 2:39 pm at 2:39 pm #1851396charliehallParticipant
Not a fan of Sanders but he is not a communist and he is not a member of any party.
Calling him a communist desecrates the memory of the victims of real communists.April 21, 2020 2:39 pm at 2:39 pm #1851397charliehallParticipant
There are certainly true Americans — the indigenous peoples whom European illegal immigrants murdered in large numbers.April 21, 2020 4:23 pm at 4:23 pm #1851528
Charlie: Don’t forget the Americans who the Native Indian savages murdered in cold blood.April 22, 2020 12:57 pm at 12:57 pm #1851695MistykinsParticipant
Joseph and Charlie, dwelling on a past that our ancestors were probably not around for will only continue to breed hate. Why keep it up?
I’m tired of seeing people blame others for the mistakes of their ancestors. Two of my grandparents were immigrants. Grandma was born in Germany. Should I become a “self-hair f Jew” because of what people believe? Maybe it’s different because I grew up with stories of how her Xtian neighbors his Frum families to keep them safe, and so we can’t hate an entire ethnicity because of the actions of some.
But try saying that in a Yeshiva, and see how quickly you will end up in the office. Most people are more interested in perpetuating the hate than in moving past the sins of the (grand)father. Time to let go.
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