January 14, 2011 12:32 am at 12:32 am #594190SG StudiosMember
Is it a problem to try on a suit in a suitstore, which you know is for sure shatnez, and you’ll be wearing it for a good 15-20 minutes (alterations,etc)?January 14, 2011 1:22 am at 1:22 am #728277GabboimMember
Interesting shaila. I never thought of this, but you have a very good point.January 14, 2011 1:47 am at 1:47 am #728278
It is not a problem at all.
You are allowed to wear shaatnez to try it on.
Generally, you are allowed to wear shaatnez for any reason which is not that you want to benefit from wearing it.
So, for example the mishna says you can wear shaatnez if you are doing so while crossing a border and trying to avoid paying taxes on your merchandise by pretending it is your clothes.January 14, 2011 1:52 am at 1:52 am #728279bezalelParticipant
Consult your LOR.
It’s a complex scenario. Some instances are muter, some asur and some are a machlokes between the Bais Yosef and the Rema.January 14, 2011 1:59 am at 1:59 am #728280GabboimMember
“So, for example the mishna says you can wear shaatnez if you are doing so while crossing a border and trying to avoid paying taxes on your merchandise by pretending it is your clothes.”
So the Mishna says you can avoid paying taxes by hiding what the government taxes?January 14, 2011 2:16 am at 2:16 am #728281bezalelParticipant
So the Mishna says you can avoid paying taxes by hiding what the government taxes?
Don’t you realize that cheating the government out of its tax revenue is a Mitzvas Asay so it is Docheh the Laav of Shatnez?January 14, 2011 2:19 am at 2:19 am #728282
To be fair, it is talking about an anti-Semitic tax.January 14, 2011 2:27 am at 2:27 am #728283real-briskerMember
How do you know for sure it has shatnez? Yes chazaka… Did you see the shatnez with your own eyes? if not I was told your allowed to.January 14, 2011 7:17 am at 7:17 am #728284eclipseMember
If there is too much shatnez to remove,and the suit can’t be worn in the end,alterations will be for nothing.January 14, 2011 6:22 pm at 6:22 pm #728285Sam2Participant
A tax the Gemara mentions is a tax solely to enrich the ruler and/or tax collectors. Taxes in places like America Bizman Hazeh are more like a Shutfus between all of the residents on a local, state, and national level because that tax money is used for what the government determines is best for its constituents. (And while that might not always be what is best for the Jews it still counts as a Shutfus because the government is intending to make the best possible choices from their point of view for the most people.)January 14, 2011 6:44 pm at 6:44 pm #728286ItcheSrulikMember
Doesn’t the mishna say “?????? ??? ????? ????? ?? ???? ????? ??? ?????? ?? ?????January 14, 2011 7:32 pm at 7:32 pm #728287
You college guys are all the same. The comma goes after “lo”!
It seems you are correct; I forgot what the mishna said.
However, the halacha still is that you are allowed to wear shaatnez to try it on.
I’ll try to find a source to post.January 14, 2011 7:51 pm at 7:51 pm #728288ItcheSrulikMember
2) Rashi ad loc quotes the diyuq in the gemara that excludes everything but derekh l’visha.
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