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I haven’t had time to look it up. Does anyone know, if there a heter?
Many people hold you are allowed to shave every friday during sefira, provided that there is a ???? that you are still doing aveilus, which seems to mean that you are shaving less frequently than you usually do during the year. (I don’t have time to find the mareh mekomos right now, but you can look it up).
But if you don’t follow that, then you shouldn’t.
I’ve also heard people hold you can shave on friday when it is also rosh chodesh. And I also don’t have time to look that up. But I don’t think I’ve heard of friday which is erev rosh chodesh. But you can look that up.
PBA: Shaving on Friday Rosh Chodesh is mentioned B’feirush in several Achronim, though I don’t recall if they said it’s okay or specifically said it’s not.
I have the opposite problem. I hold you have to shave every Friday during Sefirah. I’m currently searching for a Heter not to shave tomorrow and can’t find anything even close.
the Mishna berura 493 SK 5 is matir to take a haircut and get married erev shabbos rosh chodesh. However it seems that he is only saying it for those who hold 2nd half that they are allowed to take a haircut on rosh chodesh itself only if it is also lkovod shabbos rosh chodesh. But REb Moshe in BEin pesach lshvous 10:22 that even those who keep first half can be meikil.
AC – What’s the problem -Sefira starts next week?
Where is the source for not shaving a beard during s’fira? Shulchan Aruch?
The Chazon Ish held that all these heteirim during sefirah to take a haircut on Friday (for example when Lag Baomer comes out on Sunday) shouldn’t apply to shaving.
The whole reason is because of Kovod Shabbos, and he said the best Kovod Shabbos is to have a beard for Shabbos!
Rav Kook writes that you can truly tell who a Zionist is by looking at his face (I.E whether he shaved or not) on Yom haatzmaut during sefirah. I’m not downplaying rav kook I’m sure he has a very good reason for allowing people to shave on Yom Haatzmaut I’m stressing the importance that a question like this should not be posted on a forum rather asked to your rav.
Sam2- explain please!
bp27 Reread what i wrote. I davka left shaving out. Keyadua the Chazon Ish did not hold of shaving at all. See Igros chazon ish 1,197- 198
ANINANo – rav kook died in 1935. Yom Haatzmuat was started in 1949 as a zecher of 1948. Historically incorrect.
Yungerman: See the Nodah Bihudah O.C. 1:14, I think. I shave often (2, 3 times a week) during the year. But I always shave Friday before Shabbos. It’s a lack of Kavod Shabbos to have the scraggly startings of a beard that I will get red of as soon as possible. Kavod Shabbos is a Din D’rabannan (maybe D’Oraisa to some Rishonim). Not shaving is a Minhag. The D’rabannan wins. My only remedy would be to decide to grow a full beard and just start it now, something that I am not really wiling to do.
I don’t really have a problem with being clean-shaven every Shabbos during Sefirah. I do it every year. Just this week, I’m going to be a guest somewhere where I’ll probably be the only one clean-shaven. I don’t really mind that either, I’m just worried that some Kanoi will misread the Shulchan Aruch and attempt to embarrass me publicly for this. It’s not quite Lifnei Iveir on my part, but it’s probably not a good idea.
ANONANO
Source please
sam2-
About the Noda byehuda something tells me I once saw that the chasam sofer argues. i will try to find the mare makom.
About being the only guy who does it. Isn’t that assur altz makom shenahagu bo issur assur linhog bo heter.
( And Shaving is assur mderaysa all year round according to most poskim. i know it is not the accepted opinion, but it does not take away the fact that most poskim held it is assur.)
This is taken from the blog Hirhurim i cant phrase it better “av Tzvi Yehuda Kook was a major force and proponent for shaving in honor of the day and Rabbi Shlomo Aviner calls it a great mitzva worthy of ignoring the instructions and preferences of one’s parents.[3] Even Rav Tzvi Pesach Frank was said to have permitted shaving on Yom Ha’atzmaut.[4] There are also a number of precedents for individuals and even entire communities to take a haircut and shave on the anniversary on which a great miracle had occurred, even if it is during the omer period.[5]
It is reported that Rav Kook was once asked what the halacha is with regards to shaving on Yom Ha’atzmaut and his response was that he would examine their faces on Yom Ha’atzmaut for the answer. When he saw that many of his students did not shave in honor of the day he labeled them with the verse: “Their faces show their character”,[6] as if to say that the disheveled look on their faces from not shaving shows that they did not understand or appreciate the great spiritual significance of Yom Ha’atzmaut. As he put it: “When there is faith, there is joy and when there is joy there are no halachic doubts”.[7]”
I hope that answers your question, once again im not sating i agree im saying that rabbis hold differently so you have to ask your personal rabbi about this.
Chacham: No, because I won’t be there when I shave. It’s not Assur for me to shave and then go somewhere else. And shaving with most electic shavers (well, I don’t know most, but certainly mine) is Muttar according to the vast majority of Poskim.
ANONANO: When people say Rav Kook, they mean Rav Avraham Yitzchak Hakohen. Rav Tzvi Yehudah Hakohen Kook was his son, unless I’m mistaken. Either way, citing that in the name of Rav Kook is misleading and, as pointed out above, historically impossible.
ANANO: In general, when people say “Rav Kook” they mean Rav Avraham Yitzchak Kook who passed away in 1935. When they talk about Rav Tzvi Yehuda they say “Rav Tzvi Yehudah.” If you don’t follow convention you confuse people.
Aaron Chaim- I think the heter is only if Shabbos is Rosh Chodesh, not if Shabbos is on Sunday like it is this year.
Sam2- So how does one who regularly shaves start growing a beard if it will look scraggly the first Shabbos?
Who said its not kavod shabbos to have a scraggly beard? If Halacha says something then that is kovod shabbos. (not to be dramatic, but how far can you take this?)
Does an avel shave erev shabbos?
Have you asked your LOR?
Aaron Chaim’s question won’t occur again until 2020, when Rosh Chodesh Iyyor is on actual Shabbos. The again 2023, 2026, 2027, 2030, 2033.
However, if you are in distress from not shaving, there are Heterim to shave on Yom ha’Atzmaut, but I don’t know if you Minhog Aaron Chaim is to hold Yom ha’Atzmaut BiZemano next Friday? or Mukdom next Thursday?
“Aaron Chaim- I think the heter is only if Shabbos is Rosh Chodesh, not if Shabbos is on Sunday like it is this year.”
yungerman I think you meant if ROsh chodesh is on sunday not if shabbos is on sunday;-)
Yungerman: If you start growing a beard then you’ll look bad for a few Shabbosim, but that’s part of growing a beard so there’s no other choice. I am not growing a beard. An Avel does not shave Erev Shabbos B’soch Shloshim, but it’s very hard to say that we treat Sefirah like Shloshim. We probably treat it like Aveilus 12 Chodesh, at which the point for shaving is Ad Sheyiga’er Bo Chaveiro. Trust me, my beard’s at that point. (Not that I hold that that last point is relevant anyway as a Minhag can’t trump the D’rabannan of Kavod Shabbos.)
147: It’s only Muttar to shave on Yom Ha’atzma’ut if you say Hallel (or, at least, it should only be).
Chacham: No Problem! It is my priviledge to recite Hallel on Yom ha’Atzmaut.
As for your assertion Sam2, that the Availus corresponds to Yud Beis Chodesh, let me assure you it is more lenient:- If you Sam2 observe the 1st 33 days as the mourning period, and your buddy who keeps the 2nd part invites you to his/her wedding during the last week of Nisson, you definitely are allowed to attend the entire Chasuno including dancing to the music:- The mere fact you won’t be shaving before attending your buddy’s wedding suffices to count this towards your 33 day quota, despite the music. Yet the guy in Yud Beis Chodesh could not attend this nor any other Simcha {unless very close relative}.
I had to shave this Friday, since I have a hair disease (affecting my head only) that recently started affecting my beard also – I had a big bald patch in my beard, looking a bit strange, so I decided to shave this Friday. (Usually I shave once every 6 weeks or so, always leaving something). Went a bit too far this Friday though, but given the situation I didn’t really have a choice. And yes, I did get some strange looks over shabbos and this morning…
Accomodating your hair disease is a Chiyuv miDeOraaisso of “v’Nishmartem Me’od leNafshoseichem”, whereas Availus b’Sefiro is at most a Minhog.
You can study about bold patches in yesterday’s Parshiyos Tazria-Metzoro.
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