October 7, 2020 1:03 pm at 1:03 pm #1907723
I saw the clips of last night demonstration in BP, I am not going to discuss the merits the demonstration, if you want to then start another topic. I was appalled to see boys barely into puberty and some kids under Bar Mitzvah running fekah at 1:30 AM, where are the parents? when my kids were that age I knew exactly where they were at 1:30 AM.October 7, 2020 1:42 pm at 1:42 pm #1907758☕️coffee addictParticipant
How do you know the parents weren’t there?October 7, 2020 1:43 pm at 1:43 pm #1907756Sam KleinParticipant
Sadly in today’s new generation alot of parents do not have control over their children and rather then be a mafia mob boss on top of their children with being on bad terms with them. They let them sadly live a life of free for all to come and go and do whatever they want whenever they want with putting their yiddishkeit at risk all for the price of hopefully keeping a relationship with them if they don’t run away.
What they forget is that this is all in the hands of Hashem and Hashem has a plan for each person and child.
As parents let’s make sure to be role models 24-7 and remember 2our children will follow in our ways and values and pass it on to their children when the time comes. One parents mistake can C”V Coat many future generations of grandchildren and great grandchildren to follow that wrong way of yiddishkeitOctober 7, 2020 2:17 pm at 2:17 pm #1907790
@coffee addict, because there were not more then 20 men there and tons of bucherimOctober 7, 2020 5:48 pm at 5:48 pm #1907850☕️coffee addictParticipant
Maybe those 20 men had 8 kids each 20*8=160October 7, 2020 6:01 pm at 6:01 pm #1907863
the total amount of people there was 500 according to NYPD so 20 x 25 =500, not very plausible.October 7, 2020 6:04 pm at 6:04 pm #1907866
Neithet is the idea that there were only 20 menOctober 7, 2020 6:10 pm at 6:10 pm #1907868October 7, 2020 6:36 pm at 6:36 pm #1907878
@Syag, did you see the clip? and how many men do you see?October 7, 2020 6:40 pm at 6:40 pm #1907880
As a rule i won’t click on or read or watch any newstories on frum or secular sites that are badmouthing jews, reporting bad things they’ve done, or bad things they say about each othet. Hearing about it here from you all is usually more than i can stomach.October 7, 2020 9:13 pm at 9:13 pm #1907931
@Syag, The clip was here on YWNOctober 7, 2020 9:25 pm at 9:25 pm #1907936
“…on frum or secular sites…”October 7, 2020 10:03 pm at 10:03 pm #1907945
Badmouthing? YWN was just reporting what happened in BP, nothing moreOctober 7, 2020 10:05 pm at 10:05 pm #1907948
“…reporting bad things they’ve done,…”October 7, 2020 10:39 pm at 10:39 pm #1907955The little I knowParticipant
Hmmm. So we’re judging by the appearance on video or photos, and establishing fact based on that. Haven’t we learned that the camera lens is directed towards the drama or the most demonstrative scene? If I was taking photos, I would not be documenting the entire event, but looking for the scenes that portray interesting things. With less than optimal objectivity, are we reaching conclusions? Assumptions?October 8, 2020 8:00 am at 8:00 am #1908070
Yup a second night of a bunch of young people with no supervision, but at least it was 9 PM not 1:30 AMOctober 8, 2020 10:28 am at 10:28 am #1908104rationalParticipant
In Israel, Bein Hazmanim is hefker veldt for the kids. There is even a slang word for wanting to see the action, the fight, the protest, the dumpster fire, the police coming, the ambulance going. It doesn’t matter as long as it’s action. It’s called l’hitchardel”. So why should it be different in Brooklyn?
Separately, pooh-pooing these video clips, finding teirutzim galore, or worst, denying they are worthy of attention because we just don’t watch or read about Jews doing naughty things, weakens any argument on the topic under discussion. Forming a legitimate opinion requires information and knowledge. The topic is “Are the frum rightfully and properly protesting against discrimination in public policy, or are they damaging the public and themselves by their actions and overstepping the boundaries of legitimate protest?”.October 8, 2020 11:38 am at 11:38 am #1908110
Rational- no, that isn’t the topic here. And if you truly had a desire to hash out that topic, you could do it in person, with real names, where you are less likely to exaggerate or smear based on personal biases AND it won’t be online for every jerk to google.
“pooh-pooing these video clips, finding teirutzim galore, or worst, denying they are worthy of attention because we just don’t watch or read about Jews doing naughty things”
I get my “news” from individuals who know the news and tell it over with the same careful speech they use in any conversation. I don’t need to hear it or see it from places that add unfortunate embellishments. Is that also passe now? Have we exited the era where we don’t want to suck up every bit of trash from every rag published online? You are old enough to know that times sure have changed.October 8, 2020 1:00 pm at 1:00 pm #1908156rationalParticipant
Sorry for getting off-topic, I am sure this has never happened before in the Coffee Room.
Somewhere down the line , someone got their information from the primary source, in this case, someone with a worm’s eye view of events or, yes, the rags publishing the clips online. The more filters, the less real news and the more colored it is by bias. Anyone with a college education, and most who do not have one, know that. I’m old enough to read what I can and want, to compare it to other sources, to filter it out, and to draw my own conclusions. Surely even you have read two chareidi newspapers, both backed by gedolei olam, and wondered if the editors live on the same planet. Receiving the “news” from individuals who “know the news” doesn’t cut it these days. Any opinions formed on that basis are unworthy of being argued in a public forum.October 8, 2020 2:21 pm at 2:21 pm #1908199Shmili_OOngarParticipant
This is a boosha. You guys are probably 30 and arguing like you are 10.October 8, 2020 9:21 pm at 9:21 pm #1908402
@shimlunger Exactly right, lets focus on the topic, not on the messenger
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