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August 15, 2021 11:38 am at 11:38 am #1999938Reb EliezerParticipant
I heard on shabbos a story which happened to the Oheiv Yisroel, Apter, where at a Din Torah he was bending to pasken for one of the litigens even though all his logic pointed to the other. He found some money accidently which that litigent placed in his beketcher when he was not looking. The Apter somehow unknowingly felt the influence of the money.
When I examined the pasukim, I realized that the Torah actually alludes to this. We find that shochad bilnds chachamim and distorts the words of tzadikim. Why the two expressions? Maybe, to be blinded, one must see, so the chachamim know about the money whereas tzadikim feel the influence even without knowing and their words get distorted by wanting to say one thing but ending up saying something else.August 15, 2021 5:16 pm at 5:16 pm #2000107BenephraimParticipantA quick question. Does the דיין get Malkos for taking the bribe? If yes, then he must do a mayseh? Does a dayan have to check his clothes anytime except Erev Shabbos? Is giving a psak considered a mayseh? Just trying to divert the discussion to Halacha Lemayseh. Please RE be mochel me.
August 15, 2021 9:16 pm at 9:16 pm #2000151Reb EliezerParticipantBenephraim, remember the gemora in Bava Metzia, chosam bepiv if akimas sefosov is a masseh as through his mouth, pesak, an action occurs through money getting exchanged.
August 18, 2021 10:57 am at 10:57 am #2000991Reb EliezerParticipantBenephraim, do you know the story where a litvak deverted the discussion to halacha where the gemora says that a bird burned from the mouth of Rebbi Yonasan ben Uziel, so the litvak asked, was he a mazik and did he have to pay? BTW, the yekke said, war es gut gebratten? Was it baked well?
August 19, 2021 10:10 am at 10:10 am #2001255Avi KParticipantSee Ketubot 105b.
August 19, 2021 2:07 pm at 2:07 pm #2001308Reb EliezerParticipantAvi K, dp you agree with the above? The gemora interprets it on tzadikim and not like Rashi and targum devorim hamtzudokim.
August 31, 2022 9:34 am at 9:34 am #2120025Reb EliezerParticipantThe Shlah Hakadosh interprets shoftim veshotrim, to set judges and enforcers on our gates to set judges and enforcers on our openings, mouth, ears and eyes to use them properly.
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