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July 18, 2018 11:46 am at 11:46 am #1560861JosephParticipant
Should criminals be turned into slaves, in accordance with the Thirteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution?
July 18, 2018 3:41 pm at 3:41 pm #1560958RedlegParticipantJoseph, the 13th Amendment refers to involuntary servitude, not slavery per se. Convicted criminal do, in fact, perform mandatory labor and are, in some States, “rented out” to perform such labor for private entities. As far as selling them as chattel slaves, to whom could they be sold? Once sold, they would no longer incarcerated and subject to the 13th. so no private or corporate entity could legally own them. Any such sale would be void ab initio .
July 18, 2018 3:41 pm at 3:41 pm #1561060It is Time for TruthParticipantthat used to happen. they were called chain gangs or something
July 18, 2018 3:41 pm at 3:41 pm #1561092Avram in MDParticipantIt is already routinely happening in the U.S., although they don’t use the term “slavery” for it.
July 18, 2018 4:20 pm at 4:20 pm #1561221zahavasdadParticipantSometimes frum Jews are convicted of commiting a crimes, You know this would apply to them too
July 18, 2018 6:50 pm at 6:50 pm #1561297JosephParticipant“As far as selling them as chattel slaves, to whom could they be sold?”
I’d bet interested in buying one. Other are too, I’m sure.
“Once sold, they would no longer incarcerated and subject to the 13th. so no private or corporate entity could legally own them. Any such sale would be void ab initio .”
Incorrect. The 13th Amendment specifically permits convicted criminals to either be enslaved or committed to involuntary servitude. Constitutionally the law can be set that the punishment for a crime is enslavement. There’s no requirement under the 13th that the criminal be incarcerated while enslaved.
“Sometimes frum Jews are convicted of commiting a crimes, You know this would apply to them too”
Do you favor abolishing the death penalty, life imprisonment and other long term imprisonment? Those can r’l affect Yidden too.
July 18, 2018 9:39 pm at 9:39 pm #1561314👑RebYidd23ParticipantWho wants a criminal as a slave?
July 18, 2018 10:58 pm at 10:58 pm #1561320jdf007ParticipantI’m sure they’ll be required to be treated better than those illegals that some folks are so keen on “protecting”. The things they do to those folks should be illegal….but they are.
July 18, 2018 11:00 pm at 11:00 pm #1561330JosephParticipantRY23: The Torah prescribes selling a thief as a slave. So Hashem believes there’s a market for them.
July 19, 2018 10:52 pm at 10:52 pm #1562203It is Time for TruthParticipantThere are contradictory methods of slavery
One brings the servant up
the other holds him/her downwe of course are proponents of the former
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