Should every kollel guy be called Rabbi or Mr.?

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    Zushy
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    Should every kollel guy be called Rabbi or Mr.?

    #996908

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Yes (unless one happens to be a doctor).

    #996909

    popa_bar_abba
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    Some settle for R’

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    akuperma
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    You should follow the local practice as this is merely a form of derekh eretz, not halacha). Remember that the last real smicha was almost 20 centuries ago, but Ashkenazi frequently use “Rabbi” as a courtesy title (similar to “Mister” which indicate a rank well above mere peasant, or the French “monsieur” which indicated a nobleman). Indeed, in Yiddish, “Reb ….. ” was the only form of address Jews used for each other (unless they person was really assimilated in which case they were “Herr” or “Mister” depending on country – which was an insult when used for a Yid).

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    TheGoq
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    That reminds me (hijack alert) was yesterday some kind of new bein hazmanim? i was at a mall and saw dozens of yeshiva and kollel guys in the afternoon anyone?

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    FriendInFlatbush
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    Yes, I do think that everyone is kollel should be called Rabbi. Especially if he has a beard.

    #996913

    golfer
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    Solid thinking, FriendinF.

    But your criteria will not help me to decide when to call the wife of such, “Rebbetzin.”

    Advice appreciated.

    #996914

    DaMoshe
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    If the person has semichah, then call him Rabbi. If not, then he’s called Mister. If you want to use Reb, that can be used as well.

    #996915

    apushatayid
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    call him whatever he wants to be called. why do you care either way?

    #996916

    rebdoniel
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    Rabbi Avigdor Miller told anyone who learned 500 blatt gemara that they can use Rabbi on their kid’s wedding invitation.

    #996917

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    DaMoshe, I would guess that some of your rebbeim, whom you would never dare address as anything other than “Rabbi”, never got semicha.

    #996918

    shmoolik 1
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    only if he has a beard and wears a black hat

    #996919

    Imaofthree
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    Some call them Rabbi to honor the Torah that they learn. It’s appropriate.

    #996920

    cherrybim
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    You can calls him Johnson.

    lol – 29

    #996921

    PBT
    Member

    I get called Rabbi about half the time somebody wants a donation. And no, I don’t like it. I think it cheapens the work real Rabbonim have taken to get there.

    #996922

    Yserbius123
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    Why don’t we follow the standard of the frum newspapers? A man is called depending on your subjective standards of him:

    1. Chariedi Gadol HaDor from Eretz Yisroel: Moreinu HaRav
    2. Gadol from America: HaRav
    3. Rosh HaYeshiva or Rabbi of a big shul and has a beard: Rav
    4. Rabbi but doesn’t have a beard: Rabbi
    5. Rabbi but has opinions that disagree with yours: Rabbi
    6. Chosson with a beard: Reb
    7. Bearded man with a lot of money: Reb
    8. Clean shaven man who doesn’t have a shul or yeshiva or dough: Mr.

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