January 1, 2014 8:31 am at 8:31 am #611728
Should every kollel guy be called Rabbi or Mr.?January 1, 2014 12:19 pm at 12:19 pm #996908
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
Yes (unless one happens to be a doctor).January 1, 2014 1:19 pm at 1:19 pm #996909
Some settle for R’January 1, 2014 1:19 pm at 1:19 pm #996910
You should follow the local practice as this is merely a form of derekh eretz, not halacha). Remember that the last real smicha was almost 20 centuries ago, but Ashkenazi frequently use “Rabbi” as a courtesy title (similar to “Mister” which indicate a rank well above mere peasant, or the French “monsieur” which indicated a nobleman). Indeed, in Yiddish, “Reb ….. ” was the only form of address Jews used for each other (unless they person was really assimilated in which case they were “Herr” or “Mister” depending on country – which was an insult when used for a Yid).January 1, 2014 1:20 pm at 1:20 pm #996911
That reminds me (hijack alert) was yesterday some kind of new bein hazmanim? i was at a mall and saw dozens of yeshiva and kollel guys in the afternoon anyone?January 1, 2014 2:20 pm at 2:20 pm #996912
Yes, I do think that everyone is kollel should be called Rabbi. Especially if he has a beard.January 1, 2014 2:50 pm at 2:50 pm #996913
Solid thinking, FriendinF.
But your criteria will not help me to decide when to call the wife of such, “Rebbetzin.”
Advice appreciated.January 1, 2014 4:12 pm at 4:12 pm #996914
If the person has semichah, then call him Rabbi. If not, then he’s called Mister. If you want to use Reb, that can be used as well.January 1, 2014 4:26 pm at 4:26 pm #996915
call him whatever he wants to be called. why do you care either way?January 1, 2014 4:46 pm at 4:46 pm #996916
Rabbi Avigdor Miller told anyone who learned 500 blatt gemara that they can use Rabbi on their kid’s wedding invitation.January 1, 2014 5:46 pm at 5:46 pm #996917
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
DaMoshe, I would guess that some of your rebbeim, whom you would never dare address as anything other than “Rabbi”, never got semicha.January 1, 2014 6:37 pm at 6:37 pm #996918
only if he has a beard and wears a black hatJanuary 2, 2014 1:15 am at 1:15 am #996919
Some call them Rabbi to honor the Torah that they learn. It’s appropriate.January 2, 2014 4:34 pm at 4:34 pm #996920
You can calls him Johnson.
lol – 29January 2, 2014 5:19 pm at 5:19 pm #996921
I get called Rabbi about half the time somebody wants a donation. And no, I don’t like it. I think it cheapens the work real Rabbonim have taken to get there.January 2, 2014 5:21 pm at 5:21 pm #996922
Why don’t we follow the standard of the frum newspapers? A man is called depending on your subjective standards of him:
- Chariedi Gadol HaDor from Eretz Yisroel: Moreinu HaRav
- Gadol from America: HaRav
- Rosh HaYeshiva or Rabbi of a big shul and has a beard: Rav
- Rabbi but doesn’t have a beard: Rabbi
- Rabbi but has opinions that disagree with yours: Rabbi
- Chosson with a beard: Reb
- Bearded man with a lot of money: Reb
- Clean shaven man who doesn’t have a shul or yeshiva or dough: Mr.
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