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Should every kollel guy be called Rabbi or Mr.?
Yes (unless one happens to be a doctor).
Some settle for R’
You should follow the local practice as this is merely a form of derekh eretz, not halacha). Remember that the last real smicha was almost 20 centuries ago, but Ashkenazi frequently use “Rabbi” as a courtesy title (similar to “Mister” which indicate a rank well above mere peasant, or the French “monsieur” which indicated a nobleman). Indeed, in Yiddish, “Reb ….. ” was the only form of address Jews used for each other (unless they person was really assimilated in which case they were “Herr” or “Mister” depending on country – which was an insult when used for a Yid).
That reminds me (hijack alert) was yesterday some kind of new bein hazmanim? i was at a mall and saw dozens of yeshiva and kollel guys in the afternoon anyone?
Yes, I do think that everyone is kollel should be called Rabbi. Especially if he has a beard.
Solid thinking, FriendinF.
But your criteria will not help me to decide when to call the wife of such, “Rebbetzin.”
Advice appreciated.
If the person has semichah, then call him Rabbi. If not, then he’s called Mister. If you want to use Reb, that can be used as well.
call him whatever he wants to be called. why do you care either way?
Rabbi Avigdor Miller told anyone who learned 500 blatt gemara that they can use Rabbi on their kid’s wedding invitation.
DaMoshe, I would guess that some of your rebbeim, whom you would never dare address as anything other than “Rabbi”, never got semicha.
only if he has a beard and wears a black hat
Some call them Rabbi to honor the Torah that they learn. It’s appropriate.
You can calls him Johnson.
lol – 29
I get called Rabbi about half the time somebody wants a donation. And no, I don’t like it. I think it cheapens the work real Rabbonim have taken to get there.
Why don’t we follow the standard of the frum newspapers? A man is called depending on your subjective standards of him:
- Chariedi Gadol HaDor from Eretz Yisroel: Moreinu HaRav
- Gadol from America: HaRav
- Rosh HaYeshiva or Rabbi of a big shul and has a beard: Rav
- Rabbi but doesn’t have a beard: Rabbi
- Rabbi but has opinions that disagree with yours: Rabbi
- Chosson with a beard: Reb
- Bearded man with a lot of money: Reb
- Clean shaven man who doesn’t have a shul or yeshiva or dough: Mr.
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