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The cause of the shidduch crisis (defined as there being more available girls than boys* in the Litvishe yeshivish oilam) is obvious.
We put pressure on the boys to get married (not allowing them to wear a tallis until married, giving them gelila**) but we don’t do anything of the sort with the girls.
So obviously, we need to put more pressure on the girls to even things out. So we should make all girls wear shaitels by age 22 whether or not they got married. This will motivate them to get married before age 22 to avoid embarrassment.
My question is, should we allow lace shaitels or not? Do they look realistic enough that they won’t be embarrassed enough to get married, or not?
* https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/defining-the-shidduch-crisis
** https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/im-not-a-kid
Do you guys get some sick satisfaction by trying to make a joke about pressuring young men and women to marry when they are either not ready or might not have good options at a particular age?? I’m certain the solution to your non-existent crisis is to create more stress. Somehow, I get the feeling that those who post this nareshkeit are themselves incapable of sustaining a positive relationship.
See, and I figured it was someone making fun of all the people pressuring them.
Motzei shabbos troll post a la poppa bar abba?
I miss those days…..
(Nostalgia sinking in)
Lace sheitels are what Jews should be concerned about in 2021?
The Chasidim figured out the solution. Copy their shidduch system.
That’s quite literally a Modest Proposal.
I think only women should be posting here as men shouldn’t have a say as to what is and what isn’t tzniyus as long as it’s within Shulchan Aruch bounds.
lace shaitels are completely asur
no discussionSheitels aint kosher, and im not just talking about for sephardim. Better to go with your actual hair than to go out with the product of A”Z. How far the tzibbur has fallen in this case….
I’ve noticed that yabia writes the same response to a multitude of issues that he considers unimportant. Pray tell, what do you consider important for jews to be discussing in 2021? Was it different in 2020, or 2017? Is it, and I’m going out on a limb here, political issues the results of which aren’t in our range of bechirah?
“Better to go with your actual hair than to go out with the product of A”Z.”
That’s only Indian hair sheitels
“Pray tell, what do you consider important for jews to be discussing in 2021”
On a list of the top issues for yidden in 2021, lace sheitels are lists as no. 317. Perhaps consider how yiddeshe mosdos and individual families should be planning now to accommodate what may be several years of covid-related overhang w/o shutting down daily lives. How about addressing chronic poverty in segments of the tzibur, making our voices heard in many cities and towns with new “woke” political leadership, working with daas torah to find “safe” ways of introducing limited use of computers and internet access, promoting decentralization of frum life into new communities to address the skyrocketing cost of housing, education etc. in the established frum communities in NY/NJ areas, etc. etc. etc.
Lace sheitels are not on anyone’s radar screen but for a few untalented, immature and boring trolls.I am going to write what a multitude of rabbis (European, no less) mentioned as being important communal needs in their writings:
The poor, the sick, widows, burial needs, etc.None of them mentioned lace sheitels or the length (or presence at all) of peyos.
Those are communal needs; but most of the “writings* of rabbis are about halacha. Actually, very few seforim discuss the needs of the rabbi’s own community or what he did to solve problems. Your screename-sake rav ovadia wrote thousands of teshuvos about halacha, not political issues or how to fix poverty.
Why am i not surprised that yabia and gadol’s list includes almost exclusively that which is outside the range of bechirah and instead the domain of hashgocha?
Not to say there shouldn’t be discussion of those non-bechira issues that we can’t “really” fix (only Hashem decides who has money). Rav yehoshua leib started an orphanage, gedolei yisroel were very active in distributing tzedaka…all very big mitzvos, but they also realized that they are unable to fix the world and that the one thing we can fix is mitzvah observance
YO, there were lace shaitlech with natural flowing hair down to a woman’s waist in di alte heim?
Yabia Omer and Gadolhadorah,
I think you both are taking this thread way too seriously, and I bet you’re both well aware of that. Just in case not, a reminder that this is the CR, and DY’s thread is just some motzei Shabbos humor to go with the pizza. If you think poverty or some other weighty issue needs more discussion here, donate one of your Ashkenazim are awful or Trumpkopf is awful posts to the cause.
Avram: It doesn’t pas to have a goyishe hand-food like pizza for a heilige melave malka.
Pretty much all wigs come from India, even the ones that say they come from Brazil or Europe. Also a sheitel isn’t a proper kisui rosh, how is it modest to replace your hair with more hair? Especially lace sheitels, they’re most of the time prettier than a woman’s actual hair
Dear Avira,
It seems like your missing a piece of the puzzle. Their writings indicate that most of their time was dedicated to communal needs and not communal observance.
“Pray tell, what do you consider important for jews to be discussing in 2021?”
Anything but shidduch crisis, Trump, UJM’s misogyny cloaked as daas torah, my vegetarian chulent recipes, funky Covid cures and the politically tone deaf nareshkeit of both political parties.
ujm,
“It doesn’t pas to have a goyishe hand-food like pizza for a heilige melave malka.”
1. Pizza is a Jewish food. The Italians yielded it and swaths of Brooklyn to us as part of the Armistice of Mulberry and Grand Streets almost 70 years ago. That’s why Italians snootily say there wasn’t pizza in Italy.
2. When you are 40 we can teach you the secrets of why heilige Yidden eat pizza together with french fries amidst the deafening screeches of children on motzei Shabbos, though it may be too weighty for this forum.DY, that was actually quite clever, and I enjoyed it 🙂
I think lace shaitels are actually so realistic and usually so much more attractive than a woman’s own natural hair, that you’ll have lines of teenage girls lining up to get their hands on them. They won’t even want husbands anymore, they’ll just want those gorgeous wigs.Yehudis, you’re probably right, but who will they get to pay for those precious locks????? Since Daddy already has to supply Mommy with a new one each year or so as styles change, will he start providing them for his daughters as well?
Of course. It’s just a small cost compared to their daughter’s $35k seminary tuition.
And that’s an outright lie. But hey, nothing like a good put down.
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