Should Tanach be Taught in Cheder?
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November 4, 2022 4:28 pm at 4:28 pm #2135481AviraDeArahParticipant
This is the first time someone has though I’m a woman lolNovember 4, 2022 4:52 pm at 4:52 pm #2135497🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
I don’t think he thought that. I think he was hoping to insult you.November 5, 2022 7:51 pm at 7:51 pm #2135506Shimon NodelParticipant
Avira, let’s see if you can say from memory the first three pesukim of any parasha (bar mitzva parashas excluded)
NO CHEATING!! GO!November 5, 2022 8:09 pm at 8:09 pm #2135576AviraDeArahParticipant
Syag, if that’s the case, he’s just insulting himself by stooping to the level of a 3rd grader. That thought didn’t even cross my mind
Shimon; I’m pretty sure i can do that with most parshios, especially the ones that aren’t in vayikra.November 6, 2022 12:30 am at 12:30 am #2135657philosopherParticipant
It is not only King James version, there are other New Testament versions and many other Christian scriptures, in fact they base their entire ideology on misconstrued and mistranslated verses and verses that are taken out of context. This is a vast subject and if you want to learn more there’s Jews for Judaism which is an excellent organization counteracting missionaries; they have many videos and I believe books as well, or you can contact them for info on books you can read that counteract missionary points.November 6, 2022 12:37 am at 12:37 am #2135664Shimon NodelParticipant
Avira, so let’s seeNovember 6, 2022 7:36 am at 7:36 am #2135683no nonsenseParticipant
The reason why it is not taught, is perhaps, Yeshivas are Non Prophet organizations. Additionally, certain ones may not eant to teach Job.
All kidding aside, Yeshivos are there to give our children their basic background in being able to learn. Think about it, how many mesechtos in Mishnayos do they learn in Yeshiva? How much of Shas do they learn? If you want your kids to do become more knowledgeable, learn with them Rav Schwab on Tanach especially, the less commonly learned ones, Daniel, Ezra, Iyov, etc., are outstanding.November 6, 2022 8:48 am at 8:48 am #2135707Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
the classical requirement is to divide your time in 3: mikra, mishna, talmud. Later empahsized Gemora more as one needs to finish all 3 and the latter is more important. This is all good, modern world indeed requires more Talmud (in a wider sense – ability to reason about mitzvos, not simply learn pesukim (mikra) and known halakha as in “mishna”). Still, this later statement does not fully negate Nach … so, say, if you are doing 7+ years of daf yomi, you should either do full Tanach and Mishna before that, or finish them in the same 7 years, even if takes you 10 minutes a day.November 12, 2022 7:15 pm at 7:15 pm #2137609Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
a quick summary of R Avigdor Miller on vayera:
Avraham will command his household .. Rambam: it means he’ll teach middos … you need to go specialist. Not just any Rabbi, the one who specializes in middos. You can not know about middos without learning Mishlei. And there are .. roshei yeshiva who did not learn Mishlei. The whole Tanach is full of good council; only you have to learn it in a proper way.
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