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They should dress in the style of Yeshiva bochorim.
Maskim
No, they should dress like Jews have since the time of Avraham Avinu, in the garb of 18th Century Polish Nobility.
GadolHadofi, was that comment sarcasm?
SQUARE_ROOT,
Yes.
No blue shirts or gary hats CVS. Only tight pants and the top shirt button open!
im in favor of removing the black suit. a white shirt and dress pants (and hat) are enough.
im in favor of removing the black suit. a white shirt and dress pants (and hat) are enough.
The custom of dressing in style started with Slabodka. It aligned with their hashkafa of galus haadam and was also meant to raise the status of yeshiva bachurim, who were seen by most people as bench kvetchers and leeches who were not willing to work. It did come with a risk of gaavah and an overemphasis on materialism. In Europe, when everyone, especially the yeshivah bachurim were dirt poor that was a low-level risk.
Today, the Chareidi society looks at you as a low-life if you are NOT in yeshiva. Considering the high level of materialism today, it would seem that it is time to scale back the emphasis on style as it does not support any good middos and only helps the bad ones
Rocky, I think the main reason for low self esteem for bochrim that they were from poor families to begin with and were not earning anything while learning. You are right, it was to counter-act the low self-esteem, not to grow gaavah over the regular Yidden. And their dress was respectable by the standard of the time, not “over the top”. So, let’s not blame Alter from Slabodka who was very sensitive to middos and was paying attention that every student grows appropriately for the current excesses and uniformization.
Echo, why wear hat, unless you are a Rav? Why can’t you wear a cap or a turban like you zeide or sabah did? was he not frum enough?
Suit is ok, the whole world wears suits for important meetings.Being into the way you dress, is meorer taaveh, (think about this for 5 min before you argue) and therfore its ossur,
Look at these posts, what does in style mean,… tight pants, open buttons…. that proves my point
Being into the way you dress, is meorer taaveh, (think about this for 5 min before you argue) and therfore its ossur,
Look at these posts, what does in style mean,… tight pants, open buttons…. that proves my point
In slabodke it was not about style, it was about dressing well, looking good is not the same as looking in style… and also you should know even in slabodke they only did it coz boys weren’t finding shiduchim, the girls did not want to marry yeshiva bochurim, (it was a new concept)
imho> the girls did not want to marry yeshiva bochurim, (it was a new concept)
Not because it was a new concept, but because they were not ready to provide for the family. I think it is a Slabodka story when a bochur lost a button from his nice suit he was wearing for the shidduch. This one did not work out, so when the next guy went out with the girl, she returned him the button and, not surprisingly, it matched the suit…
In my humble opinion, can we stop using “assume” and “mutter”
Seems to be everyone has a different option on what is assur and mutter and some people are using that as a threat. Stop dramatizing everything.
Instead maybe say,
It lacks respectability and it is vain. Jumping to extremism and control is so fascist. Chill outIn my humble opinion, can we stop using “assur” and “mutter”
Seems to be everyone has a different opinion on what is assur and mutter and some people are using that as a threat. Stop dramatizing everything.
Instead maybe say= It lacks respectability and it is vain. Jumping to extremism and control is so fascist. Chill out
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