November 9, 2021 12:14 pm at 12:14 pm #2026331
What’s the optimal angle for a shtender top?
I’m asking specifically about a tabletop standing shtender, but feel free to give your thoughts on other types as well (not that you need my permission to go off-topic on an internet forum).
I have my thoughts, but I’d like to see what other people think first.November 9, 2021 12:57 pm at 12:57 pm #2026348Dr. EParticipant
It really depends. For davening or learning? (And I’m glad that you specified that it’s not a free standing shtender because when it’s on the floor, that’s a whole different parsha.). For davening, you’d want more clearance to accommodate shuckeling. So depending on your shuckeling style, that might determine the angle. For learning, you’d definitely want at least a 45 degree angle toward your chair in order to see the sefer–unless the unit has a cup holder for coffee. Then, you’d want to have it more straight-up.November 9, 2021 1:20 pm at 1:20 pm #2026355ujmParticipant
How tall are you?November 9, 2021 1:39 pm at 1:39 pm #2026407
Let’s assume I can modify the height of the shtender to suit my height.November 9, 2021 2:44 pm at 2:44 pm #2026434mentsch1Participant
My son just asked me to build him a shtender for yeshiva
We recently went to a large local shul
He put his gemarrah on at least 15 different types and picked one
i measured it at 21 degreesNovember 9, 2021 11:47 pm at 11:47 pm #2026566HaLeiViParticipant
The Yeshiva freestanding shtenders must have a foot rest positioned to have enough control to pull or push the top to or away from you.
I still remember how my Chavrusa lost control and his shtender rammed the back of the neck of the guy in front. Hard to forget the shriek.November 10, 2021 1:54 am at 1:54 am #2026599LostsparkParticipant
61.3 degrees, 77.0 degrees if you are ChaBaD.November 10, 2021 8:24 am at 8:24 am #2026688right about nowParticipant
Created an account just to answer this. It is pretty much settled science that 12-15 degrees is the comfort range for viewing writing at a lecture. I’ve built scores of shtenders and the angle use is always 12 degrees. Hatzlacha!
welcome!November 10, 2021 9:55 am at 9:55 am #2026730
right about now,
Welcome, and thanks for your input.
Do you think 12-15° is actually the most comfortable angle, or do you think it’s just the best balance between being able to see the writing and also looking at the audience? I would think a steeper angle would be more comfortable to read if you don’t have the audience factor.November 10, 2021 10:28 am at 10:28 am #2026754ujmParticipant
Where did you previously mention there being an audience, as a factor in consideration?November 10, 2021 10:46 am at 10:46 am #2026765
Right about now mentioned viewing writing at a lecture. I assumed he was referring to someone giving a lecture in front of an audience. I was pointing out that a regular tabletop shtender is generally not used in front of an audienceNovember 10, 2021 11:27 am at 11:27 am #2026806right about nowParticipant
Sorry, should have read ‘lecturn’. But the question is valid. I would suspect that for learning, a steeper angle might make sense, but for davening where you still want to be able to see the tzibbur, a shallower (12 degrees) would make sense. This was presented in graphic standards. Strangely, it is not a question unique to the frum olam.November 10, 2021 12:09 pm at 12:09 pm #2026820
I’d rather see my siddur than the back of someone’s head.November 10, 2021 1:48 pm at 1:48 pm #2026831Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
Finally, an answer to the old Carroll’s question: how is the orev like a shtender?
They are both bad.
Let me know if you get this.November 10, 2021 6:39 pm at 6:39 pm #2026908Sam KleinParticipant
Why don’t you just buy an adjustable level shtender for your son? They come with 5 or more levels to choose which is best and can always be changed to a different level if someone else taller or older is using it instead. Their also made by a few companies and not just 1 choice kind to pick from and they are also strong enough to be able to keep a big heavy Gemara on them.
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