January 31, 2017 12:31 am at 12:31 am #1213267
LU: Thank you and you’re welcome 🙂 !!!
LF: Right now I have no clue what you meant and where the dot dot dots led…
but hopefully right before I fall asleep or at some random point tomorrow it will all click.
Thanks 🙂January 31, 2017 2:13 am at 2:13 am #1213268Lilmod UlelamaidParticipant
He probably meant LU. If so, the emphasis was more on the “political” than the long. And hey, no one has to read my posts if they don’t want to.
btw, I can’t stand the expression “just sayin” I feel like it has a very negative connotation, and I’ve been seeing it a lot lately. I wonder if people realize how it sounds. Also wonder if it does in fact sound that way to others besides me. (in this case, it didn’t bother me so much because what you were saying wasn’t so negative. It bothered me much more the other times I saw it used).January 31, 2017 2:36 am at 2:36 am #1213269HealthParticipant
YY -Health, refugees by definition are people who are trying to get away from harm. It’s obviously safer to be a Muslim in America or Canada than in Syria or Iraq.”
Yes it is. At least right now it is! Just for your knowledge, there are parts of Israel, EU, etc., that a Non-Muslim would be taking their life in the their hands if they walked in there!
America and Americans First!January 31, 2017 2:43 am at 2:43 am #1213270
I think “just saying” is also contagious. One of the Mods said it to me. I heard someone else saying it too. Actually read it.
Oh that makes sense if LF meant LU.
Thanks for the feedback also on “just saying.” To me it reminds me of how sometimes I say something, because I feel the need to convey something to another person. However, it’s not something long enough to have following sentences. Sometimes I say, “Okay the end.”
Here, maybe “the end,” would seem curt.
Dunno… I’m experimenting with language on this forum.January 31, 2017 4:35 am at 4:35 am #1213271Lilmod UlelamaidParticipant
When someone says “just sayin”, to me it sounds like they are trying to make sure you know that they are trying to attack you.
Reminds me of the time when a friend of mine apologized for a comment she had made to me earlier in the day. I hadn’t realized she had meant to offend me, and she knew that I hadn’t realized it, and apparently this really bothered her so by apologizing she had the opportunity to explain to me how what she had said had been meant to put me down (apparently she had been upset by something I had said that I hadn’t realized was upsetting to her and she wanted to pay me back by putting me down but then was annoyed that I didn’t chap that it was a put-down.). Then when she realized I still wasn’t that offended even after she explained, she kept going on about how nasty her comment was (she sounded very proud of herself for coming up with the comment and she really wanted to make sure I realized how insulting it was).January 31, 2017 5:50 am at 5:50 am #1213272seedysParticipant
It seems that Trump deliberately left off countries where he has business interests.
The list does not include Muslim-majority countries where the Trump Organization does business, including Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the United Arab Emirates. In financial disclosure forms during the presidential campaign, he listed two companies with dealings in Egypt and eight with business in Saudi Arabia. And in the UAE, the Trump Organization is partnering with a local billionaire to develop two golf courses in Dubai.January 31, 2017 5:54 am at 5:54 am #1213273seedysParticipant
There may be Jews and many good people in general, who are living in Yemen and other countries that are banned from coming to the US. It is detrimental to restrict travel from those countries.January 31, 2017 2:00 pm at 2:00 pm #1213274mw13Participant
@KolHaolam: JERUSALEM: Trump’s executive order banning people from 7 countries could also apply to tens of thousands of Israelis born in those countries.January 31, 2017 2:38 pm at 2:38 pm #1213275JosephParticipant
For the umpteenth time, religious minorities from those seven countries, i.e. Jews and Christians, are exempted from the Executive Order.
And the seven countries were selected by Obama not Trump. Trump simply extended pre-existing restrictions to the same seven countries Obama and Congress selected last year.January 31, 2017 2:58 pm at 2:58 pm #1213276
LU ?January 31, 2017 3:32 pm at 3:32 pm #1213277chizuk1Participant
The MSM bias is transparent. I was watching CNN and they had a constitutional lawyer saying Trump had every right to make this ban
“A president’s power is at its zenith when his actions line up with Congress.” – Justice Jackson
And, president has broad discretion in foreign affairs, constitutionally.
Needless to say, the other viewpoints tried disputing him, and CNN ended up shutting down the segment and not referencing it later.
Obama made the same exact country shut downs during his admin. and nary a peep.January 31, 2017 3:52 pm at 3:52 pm #1213278LitvosMember
It’s a good thing I don’t watch television, read news organizations or have any social networks. A world wonderful of all thoughts of reading articles from Aish or Chabad instead.January 31, 2017 4:13 pm at 4:13 pm #1213279FuturePOTUSParticipant
It’s actually kind of funny to see the same pattern repeat itself over and over: “Trump can’t win the primary!” He did it. “Trump can’t say that!” He said it. “Trump can’t win the election!” He won it. “Trump can’t make an immigration ban!” He did it. “Trump can’t build a wall!” ….. He’s interested in getting stuff done for the country, to benefit the country, even when people don’t see it. And he couldn’t care less what people think. The way it’s going, he will get one or two major things done by midterm elections, and then Republicans will win bigly (or big-league, depending on your geirsa) and he’ll be able to accomplish even more with less opposition.
However, he is the most liberal GOP President since Eisenhower (as evidenced by proposed stimulus packages, childcare support, among other things), and he is most of all, a dealmaker. If democrats were to work with him instead of merely being loud obstacles, his plans would have much more input from the left, would possibly be tamed down a little, and democrats would even be able to pass some of their own agenda. But if they continue to merely obstruct and make controversy over every little thing that he is going to do anyway, they are going to find themselves in a major crisis in two years.January 31, 2017 5:27 pm at 5:27 pm #12132802scentsParticipant
So all of this is for the tiny number of 100 or so people that want to enter the USA?
All of this for extra few hours of detaining and questioning these few people with possible ties to terrorism or actually being terrorists?
All of this for people that come from countries that would murder you and myself just for who we are?
So what gets done? protests that gets thousands of people delayed for hours..January 31, 2017 8:44 pm at 8:44 pm #1213281
Consider this: How many of those countries admit Israeli Passport holders? The answer is 0. How many people have protested that fact?January 31, 2017 9:43 pm at 9:43 pm #1213282flatbusherParticipant
The Democrats and the media are really blowing this way out of proportion. Obama and Carter took similar actions and in November 2015 Chuck Schumer said an immigration pause may be necessary. So the outrage now is merely political to give Trump trouble. Meanwhile, nearly half the country (49%) by a Reuters polls agree with the move.January 31, 2017 10:18 pm at 10:18 pm #1213283
It’s part of the Liberal controlled media campaign to discredit Trump, like they have been doing since day 1. If he blew his nose in public, they would protest that.
(btw, LUL & Joseph, thank you for your concern and comments on another thread, since closed)February 1, 2017 4:40 am at 4:40 am #1213284
I second that Thank you to Joseph and LU!!! 🙂
Thank you thank you for responding <3
And thank you Geordie613 for making space here and taking the time to thank them too 🙂February 1, 2017 11:42 am at 11:42 am #1213285
“Consider this: How many of those countries admit Israeli Passport holders? The answer is 0. How many people have protested that fact?”
Ive seen a couple of people make that comment. I dont understand it. Are yo urealy using the “Well they did it first” defense. Especially when the “They” is Iran/Iraq etc?February 1, 2017 4:33 pm at 4:33 pm #1213287
No, I’m making a point that we are not talking about the most democratic countries in the world. Just like a blanket ban by the US is undemocratic, so is this. UK Foreign secretary, Boris Johnson, made that point in parliament this week.February 1, 2017 5:52 pm at 5:52 pm #1213288
I still dont follow
“we are not talking about the most democratic countries in the world.”
all the more reason to let refugees from those countires in!
I get the concerns regarding terrorism. But this idea that because thsoe countries dont allow Israelis in or are undemocratic therefore we shouldnt let in refugees just doesnt make sense to me.
And boris johnson making this point doesnt make it make any more sense.February 1, 2017 6:16 pm at 6:16 pm #1213289
This is an extract from the Hansard (official record of parliament) on 30 January. Make of it what you wish…
Nigel Adams (Selby and Ainsty) (Con)
I am glad my hon. Friend has pointed that out. I had alluded to it in an elliptical way, but it is right that the House should be aware of that discrimination and the ban that exists. By the way, the House should reflect on the fact that all immigration and visa policies are by their nature discriminatory as between individuals and nations.February 1, 2017 11:29 pm at 11:29 pm #1213290
Thank you for sharing
I hope you dont misunderstand. IT is a nice sentiment and the Anti-semitism of the regimes in question should be called out.
I just dont understand how that is relevant when it comes to saving refugees in question?
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