December 27, 2017 2:38 pm at 2:38 pm #1437789beisyosefParticipant
Is it ok for a single girl to wear a ring without diamonds on her ring finger or will that make ppl think she’s engaged?December 27, 2017 3:08 pm at 3:08 pm #1437855iacisrmmaParticipant
It was never an issue. It’s NORMAL.December 27, 2017 3:25 pm at 3:25 pm #1437869iacisrmmaParticipant
I forgot to add: It’s called the “ring” finger not a “wedding ring” or “engagement ring” finger.December 27, 2017 3:31 pm at 3:31 pm #1437880
Longstanding tradition of girls who don’t want to be harassed.December 27, 2017 3:56 pm at 3:56 pm #1438011
RY, how is that applicable to a Jewess? If she’s married she’s covering her hair; if her hair isn’t covered her finger doesn’t change the calculus.December 27, 2017 3:57 pm at 3:57 pm #1438066BinyanadeadParticipant
Yes, it will make stupid yentas think shes engaged. Who cares!!???December 27, 2017 3:58 pm at 3:58 pm #1438010RedlegParticipant
There is nothing particularly sacred about the third finger of the left hand in halacha. It’s status as the ring finger is just a convention and a non-Jewish one at that. When Choson presents the ring under the chupah, he places it on the Kallah’s right index finger. I could see that it might be awkward to wear it there permanently.December 27, 2017 4:08 pm at 4:08 pm #1438135
Note that there are halachic shittas that a married woman is required to always wear her marriage ring in public. I’ve provided the source in previous threads.December 27, 2017 4:51 pm at 4:51 pm #1438285
Joseph, engagements matter.December 27, 2017 5:40 pm at 5:40 pm #1438303
RY, engagement rings are a goyishe invention. Diamond engagement rings is a bill of goods invented and sold to you by De Beers from South Africa.December 27, 2017 6:40 pm at 6:40 pm #1438377
It doesn’t matter who invented it. A CZ on a stainless steel band still deters about 5%.December 27, 2017 10:38 pm at 10:38 pm #1438467
Whoa, I finally agree with Joseph about something!December 28, 2017 10:15 am at 10:15 am #1438584apushatayidParticipant
Isha niknis bishlosha drachim. How does she advertise she is married if one of the other drachim were used.December 28, 2017 4:06 pm at 4:06 pm #1438918flowersParticipant
Note that there are halachic shittas that a married woman is required to always wear her marriage ring in public. I’ve provided the source in previous threads.
A pack of stupidity.
My guess is you opened this thread in order to say that (stupid) statement.December 28, 2017 4:30 pm at 4:30 pm #1438941
flowers, do you as a woman feel you have the right to disagree and call stupid gedolim who paskened something you don’t like? Please have someone check the Sefer HaChinuch for you. And note that I haven’t started this thread.December 28, 2017 5:34 pm at 5:34 pm #1438954flowersParticipant
The OP asked a question that sounds very much like a question that you would ask.
Sefer HaChinuch does not say it is required for a married woman to wear her ring in public. Perhaps he says it is a good idea, but he doesn’t say required. It is completely and totally false to say that she is required to wear her ring in public.December 28, 2017 6:35 pm at 6:35 pm #1438971
You say the Sefer HaChinuch says it’s appropriate for a married woman to always wear her wedding ring, and the reason he gives is that it serves as a “constant reminder” to her status. Do you think his point is “stupid”?December 28, 2017 7:21 pm at 7:21 pm #1439014PhilParticipant
I think flowers means to say that you are spouting stupidity for a change. As usual, you incorrectly quote from a source that something is a mandated requirement when the source doesn’t actually say that it is. All for the inner satisfaction you get from criticizing other Jews. Sounds like the opposite of smart to me.December 28, 2017 8:58 pm at 8:58 pm #1439085
Just to clarify, when I said I agreed with Joseph, it was the part about engagement rings being a racket foisted upon us by the diamond cartel. None of which has to do with wedding rings.December 28, 2017 9:40 pm at 9:40 pm #1439101
BTW, wedding rings for men became popular when wives figured their husbands going off to war needed a “constant reminder” of their status. Mostly WWII, I think, but possibly WWI. Clearly this is not a traditional Jewish idea, so whence comes the idea that women need a “constant reminder?”December 29, 2017 12:01 am at 12:01 am #1439129
“whence comes the idea that women need a “constant reminder?”
From the Seforim HaKedoshim, as mentioned.
“wedding rings for men became popular when wives figured their husbands going off to war needed a “constant reminder” of their status.”
That is antithetical to us Jews, as you said. Chukas Akum for men to wear rings. And the idea of a married man having a “reminder” not to do something wrong is itself not Jewish. Single men are also not allowed to do anything wrong. The fact that a man is married, in Judaism, does not change much the standards of what is appropriate or inappropriate. Married women have a special status, eishes ish, that men don’t have an equivalent status of.December 29, 2017 12:01 am at 12:01 am #1439133
Ring sizes change over time.
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