Sometimes,the listener needs cues

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  • #596187
    eclipse
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    Sometimes,a friend or spouse wants advice from the listener.

    Other times,they just want a little sympathy.Nothing more.

    What “cues” should the listener watch out for to determine which response is being sought?

    Attention all CR posters who keep getting “yelled at” when you probably mean well…this one’s for you!

    #757304
    ZeesKite
    Participant

    Sorry for responding.

    #757305
    eclipse
    Member

    Are you joking? I wasn’t criticizing anyone,just noticing the source of most arguments IN THE CR.

    #757306
    am yisrael chai
    Participant

    Why not just be upfront & ask directly if he/she would like advice or support?

    #757307
    mytake
    Member

    Ask.

    #757308
    adorable
    Participant

    mytake- very practical! thank you

    #757309
    hudi
    Participant

    Well…if they are just kvetching – they want sympathy. If they are asking you lots of questions about what to do next after all the kvetching they want advice.

    #757310
    aries2756
    Participant

    Simply say, “in what way can I offer my support”. In that way they can say “oh listening is enough” or they can ask for what they need, whether it is advice or assistance.

    #757311
    ZeesKite
    Participant

    Hudi:

    I’ll make an exception. I really didn’t want to post Friday afternoon. But it’s important (to put it mildly).

    You may not know it, but some people (B”H not me) have it hard. Very hard. Extremely hard. Sometimes their troubles overwhelm them. They feel they can’t go on, they can’t exist. No one’s in sight to cry out to, to soak their shoulder. So they use CR. In many different ways. If we can’t help them (sometimes NOBODY could), at least we should be sympathetic to their anguish, to their immense pain. The reason we (us CR members) are indeed aware of their problem(s) is proof of their DIRE need to vent, cry, gush tears. Let us tune in and at least be mishtatef in their misery. That in itself is a Nechama for suffering individuals. MAY NO ONE KNOW OF ANY TZAAR OF DISPLEASURE.

    #757312
    Shrek
    Member

    eclipse, do you want sympathy here, or real info?

    😉

    #757313
    eclipse
    Member

    For once,I was not referring to myself AT ALL:)

    I feel tuned in to others,b”h, and I don’t have complaints here.

    I was opening the discussion to prevent some of the typical misunderstandings here in the CR.

    #757314
    hudi
    Participant

    Zees – My mother already taught me that 🙂

    #757315
    ZeesKite
    Participant

    Correction (at end of long megillah):

    MAY NO ONE KNOW OF ANY TZAAR OR DISPLEASURE.

    -posted in haste erev Shabbos.

    Sorry for troubling the olam with that one, I usually do not mix in to anything deep or meaningful, I just thought it might save someone from additional pain.

    Hudi: Sorry. I erroneously thought someone was using the phrase “kvetching” to make light of another’s anguish. I apologize. I should not have jumped to conclusions.

    #757316

    poster should specify when seeking advice “i need advice” or something of the like

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