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I’m wondering if there are any people in the CR with autistic children, SPD, or anywhere in the autistic spectrum. My wife and I have a six year old girl who has many sensory issues and a toddler that is quickly following suit. I, or my wife, would love to talk off list. We’re Noachide right now but have strong tznuis standards among other things, we’re curious how special need children impacts your daily life and the standards you have for your children. We have yet to be able to talk to an observant Jewish family with special needs about these things.
i never post i usually just read but after opening this and being that i work with special needs children….bobmaniac what you posted is unecessary and if you want or meant to ask a legit question, ask it normally dont ask it in a way that can be misconstrued as a joke, when someone is posting a sincere posting.
Kives, this was clearly meant to be a joke – though in truly questionable taste, Bomb. Really.
But FTR, the word “retard” simply means slow, NOT stupid. There is no question that developmentally-delayed people have retarded mental development. They are in fact called Children with Retarded Mental Devlopment (CRMD) in the education system. Autistic children run through an entire spectrum of development. Some autistic children are geniuses, some are at the opposite end. In either case, no one should use the word “retard” in a pejorative sense.
ya i realize now it was a joke.. took me a minute,
bombmaniac I too think your joke is invery very poor taste. You take your self appointed role as Court Jester too seriously.
Sean is a very intelligent person who takes life and his responsibilities seriously,and asked for input on an extremely imortant and sensitive matter.
I too thought that the Ben Noah in his nom de plume was a joke of sorts. After I rcvd his reply (see below) to my Q on a different thread about “peek” I did a Google and found his post #16 @ http://www.chabadtalk.com/forum/showthread.php3?p=165705 I was very impressed.
Noahides are very careful not to name “clergy” or anything like that, we would never want to be considered a religion as that could be avodah zarah, we follow the G-d of Torah and the laws laid out for gentiles. We can take on other mitzvot as we see fit as long as we realize it’s not a requirement for us and if we do it properly (Rambam).
There are certainly some gentiles who are “teachers”, I’ve heard people call them “Moreinu” but that’s as close to a title as a gentile gets. But really, 95% of the learning I do are under Orthodox Rabbis (mostly online), I have a Rabbi about an hour away from me that I can go to for more personal matters if needed and we’re invited to attend services whenever we wish.</blpcckquote>
Back to the topic… I both have personally, and treat professionally, special needs children on the “spectrum”. I have treated many kids with Sensory Integration issues, almost all Orthodox.
Did you have specific questions, or were you just looking for support/vent :o)
all right people the point of this blog is too talk about autism and how to deal with it. there is a blog on autism so check it out and btw the correct thing to say is developmentally delayed and not retarded. its not allowed anymore they passed a law about that. i have 2 autistic children so if anyone has questions whether it be halachic or not please feel free to ask
When Mosh uses the term ‘blog’ I believe he means thread; and is suggesting to keep the discussion in one place at:
@oomis – We all know what “retard” really means and that it can be used in a technical way, but there are MANY names and words that become slang with a derogatory meaning over time. I could give you the definition of “gay” as being “happy” but you probably wouldn’t take kindly to someone calling you “gay” with a defense of “look it up in the dictionary”. That should be pretty obvious…’
SeanBN – I totally support you. Perhaps you misunderstood my intent. I do not expect you to take kindly to what Bombmaniac wrote. Quite the contrary – it was insensitive at best, and in really bad taste (though in his defense, I doubt he meant offense and surely did not expect such a reaction from us).
I was however, pointing out that the original meaning of the word has absolutely no insulting connotation attached, and it is a shame that it has come to mean something offensive. Sorry, if what I wrote made you think I was trying to defend the use of a word that has come to have a negative meaning.
That joke was highly inappropriate and hurtful (I’m sure).
I commend you for your Noachide lifestyle and wish you the best in raising and caring for your children.
There are many issues that face orthodox parents of special needs children. One of the most difficult ones is keeping them properly supervised in single sex groups or highly supervised groups to maintain tznius. To quote one parent, the hormones kick in but the brain cells dont.
A very good resource is on Aish.com in the mp3 library. There are many lectures from a group called Shelanu about dealing with special needs children. My personal favorites are the ones by Rebbetzin Heller and Kalmonovitz and Rabbi Zev Leff.
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