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August 20, 2017 5:50 pm at 5:50 pm #1343160yankel1234Participant
how many schools moved from out of lakewood to lakewood over the past few years? why are they less successful than the lakewood schools?
August 20, 2017 6:06 pm at 6:06 pm #1343167JosephParticipantLakewood is k’h growing by leaps and bounds every single year with the arrival of more and more Yidden from outside moving to Lakewood each year. Thus, Lakewood needs more seats for school children every year. A side effect of this dynamic is that schools outside of Lakewood are shrinking as a result of young couples and families moving out to Lakewood.
People have a tendency to view, rightfully or otherwise, the more established and older schools as more successful than the newer ones. And a school moving into town from another town is viewed, where they moved, as a newer school to those unfamiliar with the school. It takes them some years to become established and better known locally.
August 20, 2017 6:29 pm at 6:29 pm #13431721yeshivish1Participantit is because lakewood has its own mindset and a school from a different city just doesnt completely understand lakewood and it comes out somewhere ,in the recruitment,program etc.
August 20, 2017 9:56 pm at 9:56 pm #1343213The little I knowParticipantJoseph:
You wrote; “A side effect of this dynamic is that schools outside of Lakewood are shrinking as a result of young couples and families moving out to Lakewood.”
That is not the case at all. I challenge you to name a single yeshiva or girls school that is losing students due to the mobility to Lakewood. It is true that the cramming of students in the schools in the New York area is a contributing factor to families looking to live elsewhere, and Lakewood is hot right now. But there are no yeshivos suffering from enrollment drop in NY.
There are enough babies born in Lakewood every year to warrant the opening of a new school. The influx of young couples places an added burden. Yeshivos in NY are not hurting for applicants, and there are plenty of both boys and girls that will experience difficulty with acceptance in yeshivos this coming school year. Yes, there are other issues that are fodder for debate in the CR, such as rejections due to finances, the arbitrary rules of parents’ dress codes, etc. But space is an issue, and a very legitimate one. You cannot put 35 students in a class where the room size and the rebbe are capable of 25.
August 20, 2017 10:33 pm at 10:33 pm #1343239JosephParticipantTLIK: Chasidishe yeshivos or Litvishe yeshivos? There’s a huge difference. You’re correct that the Chasidishe yeshivos aren’t losing their student population in Brooklyn, but the Litvishe chadorim/mesivtas/kollelim very much are. (And from my non-authoritative understanding this is also being experienced by out-of-town Litvishe yeshivos/mesivtas.)
There is unquestionably a very notable migration of newly married couples from all over Litvishe America (as well as to a much lesser extent from outside our borders) to Lakewood and its environs, as well as a slightly less numeric, but also a notable one, of somewhat older couples with yeshiva aged children moving to Lakewood from New York and from out of town. But it is the newly marrieds coming to Lakewood from elsewhere that are the greatest contributers of the dropping Yeshiva population elsewhere where they’d of naturally otherwise had stayed and raised their young and growing families if not for moving as a couple to Lakewood to stay in Kollel there or to purchase affordable housing there (compared to unaffordable housing in Brooklyn and other large metro areas).
August 21, 2017 6:15 pm at 6:15 pm #13436631yeshivish1Participantmaybe because schools that started years ago outside of lakewood are already set in their ways and arent adjusting enough to the new realities of chinuch in lakewood which is more current
August 22, 2017 10:05 am at 10:05 am #1343888GadolhadorahParticipantIs there some special quality to the Litvish yeshivos in Lakewood that attracts frum families from outside the NJ area or is it like all the car dealerships clustering in the same are of a busy highway in terms of yidden simply wanting to reside where there is already a flourishing frum community? For many of these families, living in a diverse community is a negative rather than positive….another question is what this means for the long-term economic and employment growth in Lakewood. Will these new residents, in turn, help generate new jobs and expand the community tax base?
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