Status, social hiarchy and death of the self

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    nevuah
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    Social insecurity arises in status-focused societies because individuals feel compelled to engage in social camouflaging (masking their true personalities) to meet rigid, often unrealistic expectations of “normality.” This pressure is exacerbated by social pressure and marketing, which create idealized benchmarks that lead to constant social comparison and feelings of inadequacy when one cannot maintain a perfect facade.

    The pursuit of status transforms social interaction into a hierarchical competition where low-status individuals experience heightened status uncertainty and fear of rejection. This dynamic forces people to suppress their authentic selves to avoid marginalization, leading to chronic stress, anxiety, and a sense of being an outsider, as the system prioritizes conformity over individual well-being.

    #2555597
    Happy new year
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    Every time I shut you up in one thread, you open a new one lol

    #2555822
    nevuah
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    Because these are important things to talk about

    #2555856
    qwerty613
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    To Happy

    This is the only thing the lunatic has in his life so he can’t give it up.

    #2555968
    nevuah
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    Qwerty thank you. I’m such an lunatic. Got it. Moving on

    #2557129
    Koifer BIkur
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    What “nevuah” writes is true and plays out in the frum community every day. So what can be done about it?

    #2558081
    qwerty613
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    To Koifer Blkur

    You ask a good question, and the answer is that nothing can be done about it. We can rail against materialism, but those who have money fuel the Mosdos and so no one is going to tell them what to do. And we can tell shadchanim that they should put a premium on menschlichkeit, but it will go in one ear and out the other. Your question explains why I don’t get involved in these discussions because it just leads to people venting their frustration with the system. You can’t fight city hall, so s person just has to find a happy medium in his own life.

    #2558508
    nevuah
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    This is true. Qwerty your finally making sense. But if we don’t speak and use our voice. Then control will be absolute. Speaking up and talking about problems is also important too

    #2558982
    qwerty613
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    To nevuah

    I’ll share a story. About 30 years ago I wrote a letter to the Country Yossi Magazine in which I told the readers that if they decided to make Pesach at home, they shouldn’t consider themselves losers. I explained that it’s a more meaningful Yom Tov at home and often also more enjoyable. The letter was printed and at the end Yossi wrote, “See you in Orlando.” In other words, all the “haves” will be there so you can stay home with the “have-nots.” I’m fully aware that materialism is the order of the day in the frum world, but I don’t worry about it. Boruch Hashem, I spend my time working learning and writing. If others want to spend their lives consumed with Gashmius that’s their problem.

    #2559558
    Koifer BIkur
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    Qwerty:

    I am afraid you are right. Nothing will change until HaShem steps in and “clears the decks”. I don’t want to be around when that happens.

    #2560041
    qwerty613
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    To Koifer

    The obsession with Gashmius is such stupidity. Quite a few Orthodox Jews went to the Knicks game yesterday. Assuming two friends went together they spent about 20,000 dollars. For 2000 dollars they could’ve watched the game at home on a giant TV screen with ten other friends with food from the best caterer. So why go to the game? They want to be at the4 same place as the celebrities. Hashem writes everything down. At 120 Hashem will tell them that if it was so important for you to be with Larry David in this world you can be with him in Olam Habo also.

    #2561016
    nevuah
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    I don’t agree with you qwerty besides for spending obscene money I don’t think going to game is hurting anyone.
    And stop being so delusional “after 120” God is going to “reward” us. You know it’s not a carrot on a stick that you need to wait for redemption only at the last second. Your view of God is so controlling. Honestly

    #2561019
    nevuah
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    Honestly qwerty I shouldn’t be getting on your case cuz your trying to add to the conversation which I appreciate i just personally hate that fear retoric. And I’ve always hated it cuz it makes people feel like they have to wait forever to see results and it’s annoying thing to feel and think

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