January 13, 2009 7:08 pm at 7:08 pm #589136JayMatt19Participant
Found this online, put this in the humor section, but plenty of truth to it:
This blog was filed on January 3rd 1944. There may have been a slight delay with the post appearing due to server problems…
Dateline: January 3rd 1944
Fury continues to mount worldwide about the senseless loss of civilian life in Germany caused by England’s callous bombing of German cities including Berlin, Hamburg and Dresden.
As of today many innocent German women and children have died in these utterly brutal bombing missions. And now there are ground offensives starting on mainland Europe.
The English have claimed that they are merely retaliating against the V-1 flying bombs being launched indiscriminately by Nazis at their civilian population in London, Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham, Coventry and other cities. The English point out that their enemy is sworn to its utter destruction and has used the missiles and flying bombs against its civilians without any regard to English loss of life. Moreover it makes the case that their own bombing missions are specifically directed to military targets that the German army has intentionally planted in the heart of civilian populations to try and deter English counter-attacks.
These points may of course be true – but they are utterly besides the point.
Of course England has a right to exist. Of course England has a right to defend itself. But it should ensure that its responses are PROPORTIONATE.
Since many more Germans are dying than English – the English should either tone down the success and accuracy of their bombing – or allow the Germans to catch up on the death count.
To be honest – if more English women and children were dying – we wouldn’t feel quite so bad about the number of Germans dying. But it’s just so UNFAIR that more Germans are dying…
Perhaps some English people could arrange to kill themselves to match the number of Germans dying as a result of the English retaliation bombing? It would be so considerate – and it might help England’s critics feel less miserable about the number of Nazis dying. Something that is causing them so much concern.
It would also put paid to that wretched proportionality argument.
Alternatively, perhaps the English could arrange to be less effective in their bombing? Or only bomb military targets that are nowhere near civilians – even though the vast majority of the V-1 rockets are intentionally being launched from the heart of civilian population centers.
Now the English will argue that the Germans have INTENTIONALLY positioned all their launch pads for the V-1 rockets in the middle of civilian populations to inhibit the English from bombing those launch sites. Well – tough noogies to the Brits! Sorry – but if the Germans are smarter or more skillful at cynically using their civilians as human shields than you – tough luck!
You can’t have it both ways. If you truly wish to save your nation from being annihilated by Nazi missiles you’d better stop looking to win a popularity contest. The Nazis are waging this war to win and to utterly destroy England. If all you Brits care about is popularity – then you may as well resign yourself to speaking German…
It’s about time that little nations who wish to defend themselves wised up to their responsibilities.
Otherwise the same stupid complaints will be made at some point in the 21st Century when some little nation finds itself under constant attack from rockets fired at its civilian population by a terrorizing enemy that has sworn to destroy it….January 13, 2009 9:08 pm at 9:08 pm #1026485CuriousMember
Reminds me of this:
The reaction to a fly falling into a cup of coffee:
The Italian – throws the cup, breaks it, and walks away in a fit of rage.
The German – carefully washes the cup, sterilizes it and makes a new cup of coffee.
The Frenchman – takes out the fly, and drinks the coffee.
The Chinese – eats the fly and throws away the coffee.
The Russian – Drinks the coffee with the fly, since it was extra with no charge.
The Israeli – sells the coffee to the Frenchman, the fly to the Chinese, makes a cup of tea for himself and uses the extra money to invent a device that prevents flies from falling into cups.
The Palestinian – blames the Israeli for the fly falling in his coffee, protests the act of aggression to the UN, takes a loan from the European Union to buy a new cup of coffee, uses the money to purchase explosives and then blows up the coffee house where the Italian, the Frenchman, the Chinese, the German and the Russian are all trying to explain to the Israeli that he should give away his cup of tea to the Palestinian.January 13, 2009 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm #1026486intellegentMember
Very good comparison. It is so utterly rediculous that it is so obviously H-m’s Ratzon that the world should act like a bunch of idiots because logicly it makes no sense.
THAT IS TOO GOOD!January 14, 2009 2:00 am at 2:00 am #1026487ujmParticipant
Recently, at the United Nations General Assembly a representative from Israel began: “Before beginning my talk I want to tell you something about Moses. When he struck the rock and it brought forth water, he thought, ‘What a good opportunity to have a bath!’
He removed his clothes, put them aside on the rock and entered the water.
When he got out and wanted to dress, his clothes had vanished. A
Palestinian had stolen them.”
The Palestinian representative jumped up furiously and shouted, “What
are you talking about? The Palestinians weren’t there then.”
The Israeli representative smiled and said –
“And now that we have made that clear, I will begin my speech.”August 6, 2014 10:31 pm at 10:31 pm #1026488To be or not to beMember
A trip down memory lane, or is it? methinks that memory lane travels in a circle and at it’s zenith, meets up with it’s apex .. What was true then (5 years ago) is equally funny (yet tragic) nowAugust 7, 2014 12:14 am at 12:14 am #1026489
When I saw the word “UNFAIR” capitalized like that, my mind automatically saw UNRWA!
Very good “news” article!
You can make something similar about the US war on Afghanistan. But there they killed and injured a lot more civilians and only for one (multiple) terrorist attack (not to play down 9/11, but Israel suffered and continues to suffer from suicide attacks while America only had very few but still destroyed an entire country because of it. I was not against the Afghan or Iraqi wars, but America, or any other country for that matter, can’t open there mouths to attack Israel when they did the exact or worse things. </rant>)
SiDi™August 7, 2014 1:55 am at 1:55 am #1026490To be or not to beMember
UNRWA, AKA the United Nations Rocket Warehouse Association)August 7, 2014 2:58 am at 2:58 am #1026491akupermaParticipant
Actually the Brits were very close to surrendering,and surprise surprise, the same people who complain about the Israelis were the surrender-monkeys turn out to be the same groups that wanted to end the war in 1940. In 1940 the Germans offered very reasonable terms (considering that at the time the alternatives being consdiered included moving the capital of the British Empire to Canada).August 7, 2014 3:12 am at 3:12 am #1026492
2bornot2b, very good!
SiDi™August 8, 2014 1:33 am at 1:33 am #1026493charliehallParticipant
Late in 1939, after the war had broken out but before the UK had experienced major fighting, it was suggested that the UK bomb munitions depots in the Black Forest in Germany. Air Minister Sir Kingsley Wood vetoed the idea, because private property would likely have been destroyed.
I wish I were making this up.August 8, 2014 1:52 am at 1:52 am #1026494
charliehall, there are many disgraces the West have to own up to from those horrible days but will never happen.
Halacha he, Eisav soneh es Yaakov. There is really no difference to what happened then and what is happening now.
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