November 4, 2009 12:53 am at 12:53 am #590734
could you please tell us some stories of courage and strength that you went through in life.November 5, 2009 2:19 am at 2:19 am #666761tamazaballMember
Please post stories, the cf getting a little boring.November 5, 2009 2:46 am at 2:46 am #666762pookieMemberNovember 5, 2009 8:53 pm at 8:53 pm #666763yoshiMember
But seriously, running a marathon doesn’t come close to the brave individuals who have to endure such dreadful illnesses. They are the real heros!November 5, 2009 10:00 pm at 10:00 pm #666764ronrsrMember
Yoshi, with due respect, why are they heroes?
Is what they’re doing any more heroic than the doctors, nurses, medical technicians and family members who work to preserve their life? Doesn’t heroism have a connotation of giving up something for the benefit of another? or being a champion and standing up for others? of overcoming your fears and helping others (such as a fireman, who rushes into a building while other less heroic people rush out?)November 5, 2009 10:27 pm at 10:27 pm #666765NY MomMember
I know someone who was an older bachur, working and learning, just trying and trying to find his bashert. He was engaged at one point, and then the girl broke it off. That was a huge blow to this bachur’s heart, but instead of becoming bitter, he spoke about it with his confidants (Rebbi, friends, etc.), picked himself up and kept trying. He tried so many different ideas that shadchanim suggested – divorcees, widows, BTs, giyores. But nothing went.
He went different Rabbonim, and received numerous brochos. Of course, at times, he was discouraged, and started doubting himself, and wondering if it would ever happen for him…He kept davening and trying.
Well, fear not, because this story has a happy ending. He finally found the one for him, but she was somewhat younger than he, and that is why he had to wait for his zivug hagun!
So for all of those who are still waiting, don’t give up and don’t give in to bitterness or depression. Just keep davening and may HKB”H send you your zivug hagun b’karov!November 6, 2009 12:49 am at 12:49 am #666766A600KiloBearParticipant
There are many stories of patients who fought, and sometimes not successfully, a terrible illness by bringing others closer to Hashem.
Chedva Silverfarb AH spent the last two years of her very short life giving shiurim about shmiras halashon in between debilitating chemo and radiation treatments.
Chana bas Aharon Leib AH, with whose family I am very close, responded to her awful diagnosis of an inoperable brain tumor L”A R”L that she received a few weeks before her chassune by giving out copies of a book of positive Torah thoughts. She recovered and married, only to relapse and ultimately succumb to the illness R”L.
These are just the oldest and the most recent examples I could think of in response to the post above about the heroism of those suffering. They jumped in and fought the fires raging in their own bodies the only way they could, by increasing their emunah and bitochon and encouraging others around them to do the same.November 6, 2009 3:22 am at 3:22 am #666767
NY Mom, your story reminds me of a classmate of mine. Unlike many in the class, who married in their early twenties, she did not meet & marry her husband until her late twenties. It’s obvious now why she had to wait to meet her zivug…he’s five years younger than her.November 6, 2009 4:27 am at 4:27 am #666768Mezonos MavenMember
Yours is a rather uncommon story. It is very infrequent that a wife is that much older than her husband. Whilst NY Mom’s story IS quite common, with the husband being significantly older than the wife being a relatively frequent occurrence.November 6, 2009 5:21 am at 5:21 am #666769ronrsrMember
I was not suggesting that a fight to save one’s own life was not without virtue, it has many virtues: fortitude, perserverance, bravery, etc. I just don’t think that heroism is one of the virtues involved.November 6, 2009 5:46 am at 5:46 am #666770
MM, I know that this is unusual–so are many stories of courage. I’m sure that when this woman was in her twenties, some people speculated that she was not yet engaged/ married because she was too picky, not really interested in marrying, etc. As it turned out, though, when she was in her early twenties her future husband had not yet reached the age of consent.
Of the women I know who married in their late twenties/ early thirties, most married men within a year of their own ages–some older, some younger.November 6, 2009 5:56 am at 5:56 am #666771
Well when a person has a disease and fights it, it is truly heroic people do not realize that that person fought in his mind and body to get better, prayed a lot and of course never allowed depression to overtake him. So I would consider heroisim a person that fought a disease and became better, a lot of doctors say that the cure usually depends on the persons will to live. So a doctor can do everything but the will has to be inside the person that fights it. I know few heroic people that fought the disease that way. We should always hear good things.November 6, 2009 6:08 am at 6:08 am #666772Mezonos MavenMember
“her future husband had not yet reached the age of consent.”
Parental consent for marriage can be provided as early as age 16 in most U.S. states.November 6, 2009 6:13 am at 6:13 am #666773
Hey Mezonos Maven did you post in the wrong place?November 6, 2009 6:22 am at 6:22 am #666774starwolfMember
Mazca wrote: “….when a person has a disease and fights it, it is truly heroic people do not realize that that person fought in his mind and body to get better, prayed a lot and of course never allowed depression to overtake him. So I would consider heroisim a person that fought a disease and became better…..”
This is especially true when this applies to children, who do not have any understanding of what is happening to them.November 6, 2009 6:54 am at 6:54 am #666775
MM, not in this state.November 6, 2009 8:35 am at 8:35 am #666776Be HappyParticipant
I am fighting a serious illness. I don’t call myself courageous! I know I need to keep positive and daven that Hashem will give me many more years to live (do mitzvas and shep nachas) and hopefully be Zoiche to Moshiach Tzidkainu BimHairo.November 8, 2009 8:39 am at 8:39 am #666777
estherh, you are definitly a courageous person just to say that you need to daven and Hashem will give you many more years to live to do mitzvas and shep nachas and to understand the seriousness of your illness, believe me I do not know you but you are a very coraugeous person just to write what you wrote. May Hashem give you a complete recovery and may you see many more years to come and if you ever feel down remember there are a lot of people that fought and won and you will win, I believe the Emuna in HASHEM and your positive state of mind will cure you completely. Best WishesNovember 9, 2009 5:01 am at 5:01 am #666779tamazaballMember
i know a man went on fire just like that while making a barbeque,his family didnt know what to do , thankgoodness this person is fine all bandaged up and calm, hes a very aclm person what a courage to act that way after going thrue a whole trama, and he will have no scars bh”!!April 15, 2017 10:26 pm at 10:26 pm #1254429zaltzvasserParticipant
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