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September 7, 2011 10:35 pm at 10:35 pm #599251littleappleMemberSeptember 7, 2011 11:13 pm at 11:13 pm #807348apushatayidParticipant
Don’t spend money on women you don’t know.
September 7, 2011 11:16 pm at 11:16 pm #807349apushatayidParticipantIf it walks like a duck, talks like a duck,looks like a duck, sounds like a duck don’t assume it is a duck, if you don’t know what ducks look like, it might be a snake.
September 7, 2011 11:16 pm at 11:16 pm #807350popa_bar_abbaParticipantRetards will mess up even when trying to just listen to experts?
(I know some fools, and some morons, and doofuses, and dolts, and stupidheads, etc., and don’t want to be insensitive by calling Larry any of those.)
September 7, 2011 11:28 pm at 11:28 pm #807351am yisrael chaiParticipant-If you leave a woman unattended for a long period, she might crack.
-Larry has a lot of spare change in his back pocket. He should see the maaser and tzedaka threads immediately.
-Just when you think that last item you positively “need” will be a smash, you just might be right
-As people age, they may begin to fall apart.
September 8, 2011 12:16 am at 12:16 am #807352bein_hasdorimParticipantPeople don’t like to be stared at from every angle,
especially by a dead person in a painting.
So the proof is in the pudding er.. rather painting.. um… fragments of painting, that that was in fact the genuine Mona Lisa.
September 8, 2011 12:25 am at 12:25 am #807353am yisrael chaiParticipantMona Lisa on the wall
Mona Lisa had a fall
All the king’s horses and all the king’s men
Couldn’t put ML together again
But the curator was a wizard in financial matters
Sold her to Larry even though she was in tatters
Didn’t cry over spilled milk, even earned himself a buck
Saw her value in her disheveled state but also had good luck
September 8, 2011 3:14 am at 3:14 am #807354apushatayidParticipantThere is a sucker born every minute.
September 8, 2011 6:04 am at 6:04 am #807355aries2756ParticipantThanks guys, I needed a good laugh.
September 8, 2011 6:12 am at 6:12 am #807356am yisrael chaiParticipantSounds like you might have had a tough day, Aries. Hope all goes well for you.
And thanks so much for acknowledging us.
September 8, 2011 6:53 am at 6:53 am #807357600 Kilo BearMember“Would you buy a used painting from this man?”
Who is this dealer anyway? Solomon D-ek moved from counterfeit Guccis on to fake Mona Lisas for his next sting?
September 8, 2011 10:44 am at 10:44 am #807358Aishes ChayilParticipantYou gotta strike the iron while its hot!
September 8, 2011 11:14 am at 11:14 am #807359minyan galMemberVery often people who have become successful in business believe that money can buy anything – including good taste, esthetics culture. A true art expert would know (by virtue of actually checking) that the Mona Lisa is still hanging in the Louvre. Larry thinks that is he pays a lot of money for this phoney painting that people will believe that it is the actual object and therefore he believes those around him will consider him a fine gentleman. Money can buy a lot but it cannot buy everything.
September 8, 2011 1:26 pm at 1:26 pm #807360bombmaniacParticipantTL;DR
September 8, 2011 1:37 pm at 1:37 pm #807361HaLeiViParticipantDon’t join a group just because it exists. He obviously didn’t belong in that group. Judging by one the favorite CR topics to come up, the Nimshal is probably that if aren’t up to learning seriously, don’t stay in Kollel. That being the case, they should delete this offensive thread…
September 8, 2011 1:57 pm at 1:57 pm #807362oomisParticipantWhat part of this thread was offensive to you HaLeiVi?
September 8, 2011 2:47 pm at 2:47 pm #807363HaLeiViParticipantMy Nimshal.
September 8, 2011 3:19 pm at 3:19 pm #807364aries2756ParticipantNimshal, no matter how much you try to be something or someone that you are not, you are NOT fooling anyone. You still remain the fool.
September 8, 2011 3:19 pm at 3:19 pm #807365yovelMemberI’m new to the CR. I am impressed with this thread. Some of the responses are really clever and funny.
September 8, 2011 3:39 pm at 3:39 pm #807366littleappleMemberYes some clever and funny comments thanks for the chuckles but nothing in a moshal is what it appears rather a symbol for something else, think bigger.
September 8, 2011 3:50 pm at 3:50 pm #807367gavra_at_workParticipantdoveryai, no proveryai
Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
Trust, but verify
Ronald Wilson Reagan
September 8, 2011 4:01 pm at 4:01 pm #807368popa_bar_abbaParticipantnothing in a moshal is what it appears rather a symbol for something else, think bigger.
Ok, so you are looking for bigger and more creative.
I will explain it:
Ahhh. But it doesn’t say what his goal is. We will discuss that.
He was ushered in and began to explain his keen desire to break into the exclusive group of collectors and art patrons he had been pursuing for so many years.
He wants to “break in”. Why is he telling an art dealer that he is a thief? Perhaps he sells his stolen goods to the art dealer.
Why did he make him gaze at the door? Why not just tell him to go through the door?
This was apparently a form of witchcraft.
If it held only fragments, how did it look like anything? How does a frame hold fragments? Don’t they fall?
This is an allusion to the luchos which were carved all the way through and yet the pieces did not fall out.
Everyone knows the Mona Lisa is not a painting but a photocopy. I have seen it numerous times always as a photocopy.
This is an allusion to water which sometimes shows reflected trees and mountains, yet is not a tree or mountain.
To a thief, any price is too high. So why did he ask a price? Because even when you steal it is important to know the value of what you have.
Now, to return to the original question: What was Larry’s goal that he hoped to fulfill?
He wanted to become a basketball player.
The story does not say he hoped to fulfill the goal here- it just says he was currently filled with hope that he would fulfill the goal.
The moral of the story is to not assume anything.
September 8, 2011 4:11 pm at 4:11 pm #807369☕️coffee addictParticipantEveryone knows the Mona Lisa is not a painting but a photocopy. I have seen it numerous times always as a photocopy.
What?!? The Mona Lisa is a photocopy?!?
I just bought it from a guy named Larry, he said it is “the real deal”
🙁
September 8, 2011 4:15 pm at 4:15 pm #807370littleappleMemberThough you are not taking this so seriously and though it is now Elul and every Jew should be more concerned for himself and the whole Klal nevertheless you hit on one correct nimshal : the painting for the Torah.
September 8, 2011 4:23 pm at 4:23 pm #807371gavra_at_workParticipantthe painting for the Torah.
I think PBA’s Nimshal fits better.
September 8, 2011 8:14 pm at 8:14 pm #807372littleappleMembergaw: perhaps for those interested in laitzonus but for those who care about the matzav of Klal Yisrael today consider the following;
Larry a searching non frum Jew, Dealer offering a “fragmented” view of Judaism when the real deal is on display before thousands daily but not in Larry’s neighborhood. The money Larry offers a nimshal for the investment of soul one puts in ones religious lifechoices.
September 8, 2011 8:40 pm at 8:40 pm #807373apushatayidParticipantSo nu, log off and engage Larry in such a way that you will create a positive impression of torah in his mind, so that he might consider shopping at another dealer.
September 8, 2011 8:44 pm at 8:44 pm #807374gavra_at_workParticipantgaw: perhaps for those interested in laitzonus
PBA’s Nimshal:
The moral of the story is to not assume anything.
Always investigate, always ask. Yiddishkeit is not a religion of “don’t ask that, that is Apikorsus”. Scientia potentia est(Knowledge is power), and without it, you will get it wrong. The Choftez Chaim in the beginning of the third chelek of Mishna Berura says that someone who doesn’t learn Hilchos Shabbos will be Mechallel it, just as one who doesn’t know what the Mona Lisa looks like will buy something that claims to be it based on “trust” and “hearsay”.
Your Nimshal:
Larry a searching non frum Jew, Dealer offering a “fragmented” view of Judaism when the real deal is on display before thousands daily but not in Larry’s neighborhood. The money Larry offers a nimshal for the investment of soul one puts in ones religious lifechoices.
I still don’t get what trust, money & a frame on a sturdy display have anything to do with your supposed point. Also, the dealer is an obvious Con. Are you saying the Kiruv Rabbis are Cons?
But if that is what you feel the Nimshal is, Kol HaKavod.
PBA’s point makes much more sense, and fits the story better.
September 8, 2011 9:00 pm at 9:00 pm #807375littleappleMemberThe dealer is an obvious Con to you but not to Larry, ya chopp?
and yes I am saying that non-frum “Kiruv” Rabbis are cons.
September 8, 2011 9:03 pm at 9:03 pm #807376littleappleMemberapushata: I would love to but at the moment parnassa… though I am a Partner in Torah for many years now.
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