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I spoke to a number of Lifelong Democrats who are so disgusted at the way the community was treated by the Democrats that they plan to vote a straight GOP ticket, did anybody else hear such talk.
No I guess your Democrats are smarter than ours
If you care about jewish survival, you’ll vote Republican. If see how the Dems treat Jews on a state and city level imagine on a federal level with senile Biden and radical dems running things.
There is a walk away movement but most orthodox jewish dems who think they’re still in the blue dog dem days. The secular jewish dems are the same bundist communists their grandparents were in Poland and Russia.
I give a dvar torah to illustrate this. The gemorah in Bava Metzia says that a woman is stingy with her friend. The meforshim ask that Sarah Imenu gave fine flower which is better and more expensive. They give a mashel to lion who takes his cub to look around in the city. They come across a statue of Shimshon tearing apart lions. The young one says, lets run from here there they are tearing apart lions. Says the father, you are foolish, if they would tear lions apart why make a monument of it? You are making a monument by this OP that Democrats vote Republican but you don’t make an OP that Republicans vote Democrat as that is no news.
The above should be flour.
To explain the above question with the mashel. The nimshal is that the Torah publicized Sarah Imenu’s action as it was out of the ordinary behavior as other woman did not act like her giving the more expensive to their guests.
@Reb Eliezer; You remind me of what shlomo hamelech said “ראית איש חכם בעיניו תקוה לכסיל ממנו”
Why would you post such a gemara? If you want you could have just posted the ending with the lions, not the part about women. Certain things should be kept in the bet medrash in order to prevent animosity towards religious judaism and our ancestors. It maybe true that the gemara says that (and yes, I know it’s a gemara daf 87A), but when you read the text inside you get a different “vibe” than from the way you iterated it. Also, see the chidush agadot (ibid.) that brings brings down from the Maharal M’Prague that explains that the reason why the gemara says that women are more reluctant to have guests has nothing to do with money and rather it is because they are the ones that work hard to prepare the meal and that it hurts them to see that many times their husband treats guests much better than he treats his own wife and that all she does is try to keep shalom bayit and it causes ill feelings.I suspect there are more Rs that will vote D this time around, than Ds voting R. Just this week, the Republican Chairman of the National Governors Association, Gov. Hogan, announced he was going to write-in the name of someone who was niftar 30 years ago rather than voting for his party’s candidate.
beisyosef, maybe times have changed. Otherwise let them learn from it and be like Sarah for whom it did not hurt what the husband did and the husband should not treat tbe guest better than his wife as most probably Avraham Avinu did.
I don’t like your insinuation with the pasuk.Lifelong Republican here, but I am voting straight ticket Democrat this year.
I understand your frustration, but I’m ridin’ with Biden!
Someone asked me in shul this evening if I support Biden, to which I called him the ra b’miyuto, the lesser of the evils. Then I said midvar sheker tirchak, keep away from someone who is arguably the biggest liar ever in American politics. I didn’t mention that it’s probably unprecedented in political history for all previous Republican presidents and presidential candidates to support a Democrat. Another deciding factor is that DT proudly proclaims his disdain for all the scientists and all the scientific evidence of the massive and accelerating destruction of human lives (Harvey and Irma to name but a few) being caused by climate change.
@REb Eliezer, thanks for a good moshal.
I strive to be a Jew whose moral outlook on life is shaped by the Torah.
As such I view Biden who is openly and proudly of the opinion that the morality of the Torah is immoral ch”v and would seek to implement policies encouraging people to live a life in contrary to the Torah as a candidate who is deeply immoral.
So I have voted Trump.
See Rav Shafran’s Open Letter on his website.
The pasuk midevar sheker tirchak, further yourself from anything involving lies. It reminds me of a cute
story. A rebbi was asked to write for his student an acknowledgement, reference letter. He signed it at the edge of the paper. When asked why, he said to further myself away from a lie.Reb Eliezer you’re voting for someone who suspended his campaign for being a plagiarist not to mention being a dishonest politician for 47 years.
he, who?
@Reb Elizer, you are on a roll with good stories. Thanks, we need them.
I recall story of r Meltzer: he was asked to write a recommendation letter. He wrote it, thought about it, and then tore it up. He explained that he wanted to make sure that he is not refusing out of laziness.
GH >> write-in the name of someone who was niftar 30 years ago
Nixon?!
He is plainly wrong. Yiftach BeDoro KiShmuel BeDoro.
I think Rav Shafran emphasizes character over everything which is ‘NOT’ Trump.
It is not only a one person’s opinion but others also signed and what he writes makes sense, so it does not matter who writes it and from what party it comes from, where is your common sachel?
Wasn’t Barack Obama going to destroy the Jews when he was elected in 2008? If I went back to the comments and Coffee Room discussions prior to his election, I would not be surprised if an Obama victory was viewed in the same dire terms as Biden victory is being discussed now. So how do we take the doomsday expectations of the pro-Trump commenters now? With a grain of salt? Or a hearty laugh?
One of the undesigned on the above Open Letter is Rav Emanuel Feldman (1927) who was Rav in Atlanta, GA, the author of Tales Out of Shul. A hilarious story of his ability to bring conservative congregants to orthodoxy with his clever means.
Did you see the letter? The first signatue is from Rabbi Emanuel Feldman.
This has nothing to do where he lived but it is about a smart revered Rav who has experienced life being 93 years old shlita recognizing what is right or wrong.
Well that’s more than a little disrespectful to someone who is more learned, knowledgeable and deserving of respect than you seem to be. Is it an authority problem with you or just overall disrespect issues that seem to keep poking thru your posts.
“Well that’s more than a little disrespectful to someone who is more learned, knowledgeable and deserving of respect than you seem to be”
L’chochma: Are you referring to Trump or did you inadvertently post your response on the wrong thread???
“I have an issue with ANY rav who does not reside in the US telling people how to voted regardless if they say Biden or Trump.”
And i respect your right to have that opinion! But it has no bearing on how you talk about, to or reference a rav.
common sachel, to comment on something it is good to read it. The letter says use Torah values, character, lealom jeheh adam, to vote which applies to any electiion anywhere.
Lev melachim v’sarim beyad Hashem.
It makes no difference who is actually sitting in the white house, he has no say in anything anyway.
If we did our hishtadlus in voting, that’s all we have to do and NO REASONS TO WORRY ABOUT ANYTHING EVER
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