December 3, 2009 5:09 pm at 5:09 pm #590899FerdParticipant
A well-known bakery in Jerusalem produces over 200,000 of these each day during the month leading up to Chanukah.
2 packages yeast
1/3 cup sugar
3/4 cup water
1/4 cup orange juice
1/3 cup margarine
1/2 teaspoon salt
4 or 5 cups. flour
3 egg yolks
Jelly of your choice for filling
Mix water, sugar, juice, and yeast. Let stand 10 minutes. Melt margarine and add to yeast mixture. Beat in eggs and salt. Add flour, mixing and kneading by hand to form a soft dough. Let rise 1-1/2 hours. Roll dough 1/4 inch thick and cut circles (approximately 2 inches). Let circles rise 1/2 hour.December 3, 2009 9:53 pm at 9:53 pm #1195814mybatMember
They look good shikur, but the dairy ones look easier!December 4, 2009 2:25 am at 2:25 am #1195815pookieMember
Ostrovitsky’s Bakery, makes the best sufganiyot in the world, i just finished eating 2 of them.
the store is located on 1201 Ave JNovember 27, 2016 1:30 am at 1:30 am #1195816
That means they’re making them as we type!November 27, 2016 5:19 am at 5:19 am #1195817iacisrmmaParticipant
LB: FROM 6 YEARS AGO?November 27, 2016 5:36 am at 5:36 am #1195818
“A well-known bakery in Jerusalem produces over 200,000 of these each day during the month leading up to Chanukah”
Assuming this bakery is still in operation with at least comparable demands then yes it’s currently the month leading up to Channukah. Yum yum!November 27, 2016 10:58 am at 10:58 am #1195819iacisrmmaParticipant
There is a famous comment about what happens when you “assume”.November 28, 2016 1:30 am at 1:30 am #1195820
Meh. Baruch Hashem for exceptions.
“According to Rav Suf Ganiyah of Bakersville, anyone who has reason to assume that there are Channukah donuts in the making has permission to publicize one’s glee even without solid evidence.
If the evidence comes from an online forum with enough frum posters, then renewing the thread about sufganiyot in Yerushalayim is a mitzvah (Sefer HaOchel).”November 28, 2016 3:19 pm at 3:19 pm #1195821
“There is a famous comment about what happens when you ‘assume’.”
You make it easier to arrive at a logical conclusion while increasing the likelihood of that conclusion being incorrect?
Or is that not it?November 29, 2016 4:53 am at 4:53 am #1195822
Meno: That’s the kosher versionNovember 29, 2016 5:30 am at 5:30 am #1195823
I don’t know the quote (BH) but I heard that it’s treif.November 30, 2016 4:09 am at 4:09 am #1195825The Pondering JewParticipant
Schreibers gotta have the best donuts of all time but idk if they started making them yetNovember 30, 2016 4:20 am at 4:20 am #1195826takahmamashParticipant
Donuts in NY are not sufganiyot in the Holy Land. Don’t even try to compare them.November 30, 2016 1:23 pm at 1:23 pm #1195827
“i just finished eating 2 of them”
Did you bentch afterward?
Sufganiyot present a serious Halachic shailoh regarding brachos. I once had a Rebbe who said “a y’rei shomayim doesn’t eat two sufganiyot”.
I think he said one of the only ways to avoid a shailoh is if you ate a sufganiyah in a sandwich with actual bread.November 30, 2016 2:42 pm at 2:42 pm #1195828Geordie613Participant
Meno, What is the “serious Halachic shailoh”? Because they are boiled, i.e. cooked not baked, you can have as many as you want and still bentch al hamichya.November 30, 2016 2:59 pm at 2:59 pm #1195829
They are deep fried. There is a dispute among poskim whether deep fried dough has the status of pas haboh b’kisninNovember 30, 2016 3:15 pm at 3:15 pm #1195830Geordie613Participant
Meno, Even filled with jam?November 30, 2016 3:28 pm at 3:28 pm #1195831
I believe the fact that it’s filled with jam just removes it from the category of actual pas, but it can still be pas haboh b’kisnin, in which case you would have to bentch if you ate more than a certain shiur.November 30, 2016 4:05 pm at 4:05 pm #1195832
It’s the same problem with any pas haboh b’kisnin such as cookies or cake, or certain cereals, etc. Sufganiyot are actually less of a problem, since they are deep fried.
It still may be true that a Yareh Shamayim would avoid it, but that would only make sense if he is also careful with all the other pas habah b’kisnin foods. The only difference might be that some people may find it easier to eat a “shiur” of sufganiyot than other pas habah b’kisnin. Personally, I find it is very easy with any pas habah b’kisnin to eat a questionable amount.November 30, 2016 4:39 pm at 4:39 pm #1195833
It’s not the same as other pas haboh b’kisnin, because it is a shailoh whether they are actually pas haboh b’kisnin at all, or if they are just like regular mezonos (e.g. pasta). Therefore even if you eat the shiur, whereas with pas haboh b’kisnin you certainly have to bentch, with sufganiyot there’s a safeik if you should bench.November 30, 2016 6:45 pm at 6:45 pm #1195834
Meno, true, but what I meant is that people are more likely to end up with a problem with other pas haba b’kisnim since they usually don’t bentch (and didn’t wash and say hamotzi before they started), and that is a bigger problem with other pas haba b’kisnin.
Also, l’maaseh, most of the time it is a safek even with other pas haba b’kisnin because even if you eat 4 k’baitzas, if you are not full, it is still a safeik. And I still haven’t figured out what the definition of full is even though I tried looking into it and asking sheilahs about it.
Rav Bodner told me that Rav Aharon Kotler zatsal never ate a full danish because he considered it a safeik.
It’s also a safeik if you eat enough together with the pas habah b’kisnin to be considered a meal but the pas haba b’kisnin is less than 4 k’baitzas. I asked Rav Chaim Kanievsky about this and he said to say Mezonos, but I didn’t ask him if a yarei Shamayim would do this in the first place. I think that according to Rav Moshe Feinstein, you are not supposed to do that.
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