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January 8, 2015 4:12 am at 4:12 am #614637yyormark613Member
(Baal HaTurim) The letters of”Shemos” are the roshei teivos for the weekly chiyuv of Shnayim Mikra v”Echud Targum.
Name(s)__________________________________________________
Grade and amount Parent signature
1st grade until Sheini–1x ____________________________________
2nd grade until Sheini–2x ____________________________________
3rd grade until Shelishi–2x ______________________________________
4th grade until Revii–2x ______________________________________
5th grade until Chamishi–2x ______________________________________
6th grade until Shishi–2x-with Targum _____________________________________
7th grade until Shevii–2x-with Targum _____________________________________
8th grade-Whole Parsha–2x-with Targum _____________________________________
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(??????? ??????? ??????? ????????” (??”?-???? ??”? ???? ?
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January 8, 2015 6:40 am at 6:40 am #1051380SayIDidIt™Participantyyormark, welcome to the Coffee Room!
You have an interesting idea here but I don’t know what posting it here will do. Maybe discuss it with a Rebbe or Principal.
On a side note, I have trouble doing ???”? with ????? because I don’t understand it and it really doesn’t help me understand the ????. I know it was written with ??? ????? and it’s very holy, but I don’t have the patience for it. I started doing ??”? with ArtScroll instead. I think kids may have the same problem as me…
SiDi™
January 8, 2015 4:10 pm at 4:10 pm #1051381barlevParticipantSidi, the ???? ????? explains that the point of saying ????? is one should understand what they are saying, therefore learning with ??”? is ideal for us.
January 8, 2015 4:30 pm at 4:30 pm #1051382popa_bar_abbaParticipantBoo
If the schools want to teach it, let the schools teach it. I don’t see any reason in making kids babble at home.
January 8, 2015 4:54 pm at 4:54 pm #1051383golferParticipant“Babble”???
Bite your tongue, popa.
That so wasn’t funny.
And if you’re thinking of saying you weren’t being funny- take my advice- Don’t even go there.
January 8, 2015 6:28 pm at 6:28 pm #1051384popa_bar_abbaParticipantI wasn’t being funny, and I am so ready to go there
January 8, 2015 6:45 pm at 6:45 pm #1051385January 8, 2015 7:08 pm at 7:08 pm #1051386January 8, 2015 10:38 pm at 10:38 pm #1051387WiseyParticipantIts not just on the word Shemos. The Baal Haturim reads ???? ???? ??? ????? something like ???? ??? ???? ????? ???? ???? ???? ????? ??? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ?????? ?????
January 9, 2015 6:52 am at 6:52 am #1051388catch yourselfParticipantLike many other ideas, this sounds good until we consider the reality.
My own keriyah is excellent, and I am able to read Hebrew very quickly. I am highly familiar with Aramaic, and I understand and enjoy reading Targum Onkelos, which indeed enhances my understanding of many pesukim.
On a typical week, if I’m in a rush, I can complete shnayim mikra v’echad targum in about an hour for the entire parasha (without Rashi).
I am also a Rebbe in an upper elementary grade; I know my own students, and have done some informal research on the keriyah level of students outside my own community.
The fact is that most students would be overwhelmed with these assignments simply because their keriyah, even if it is accurate, is not as fluent as that of most adults. This means it would take them significantly longer to read even smaller selections. Add to this the fact that they do not understand Hebrew (let alone Aramaic), and nearly all elementary students would quickly become frustrated and fatigued by this task.
I am well aware of the theoretical benefits of such homework, however the reality is that for the vast majority of children these benefits will not be realized at all. Instead, students will waste whatever appetite they have for learning on meaningless and arduous exercises in futility.
If your son is one of the few exceptions, by all means, encourage him to do this – the school, however, must act in the best interests of the most students.
January 9, 2015 9:16 am at 9:16 am #1051389SayIDidIt™Participantcatch yourself, thank you! I know that if I had such a homework assignment when I was a kid, I would have been frustrated after a couple ??????. I think it would be a lot more beneficial to teach kids the meaning of the Parsha then have them read without understanding.
And I do agree with popa. Doing ???”? when you understand it is very good and ?”? not babbling. However, to have a 9 year old do it IS babbling.
SiDi™
January 9, 2015 9:22 am at 9:22 am #1051390SayIDidIt™ParticipantJanuary 9, 2015 2:20 pm at 2:20 pm #1051391☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantJanuary 11, 2015 6:53 pm at 6:53 pm #1051392WiseyParticipantWhat about SMV”T on one aliyah. (Usually the first aliyah is an average sized one)
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