December 30, 2020 10:04 am at 10:04 am #1933467
Summarize Trump in a single sentence, no semi-colons. Focus on anything you consider appropriate: his presidency, his business before he became president, his family, his hair, whatever. I get to go first:
Donald Trump was born on third base and thinks he hit a home run.December 30, 2020 11:19 am at 11:19 am #1933516akupermaParticipant
Donald Trump gave American politics a much needed shaking up, gave hope to those seen as a “basket of deplorables” by the dominant elite class, and managed to undermine himself by speaking and twittering before thinking.December 30, 2020 11:20 am at 11:20 am #1933519
The greatest President since Lincoln.December 30, 2020 12:14 pm at 12:14 pm #1933560
A self aggrandizing narcissist who only cares for the rich, thinks he knows everything better than anyone else and should never been president in the first place. He made the world less safe even Israel.December 30, 2020 12:48 pm at 12:48 pm #1933586
Should be above, who made the world less safe even Israel.December 30, 2020 12:51 pm at 12:51 pm #1933592smerelParticipant
The most complex and multidimensional person to have ever been a US presidentDecember 30, 2020 2:01 pm at 2:01 pm #1933596charliehallParticipant
The term that I hear in my frum community most often is “Trump is a moral degenerate”.December 30, 2020 2:01 pm at 2:01 pm #1933601HBSParticipant
A wonderful president, who stopped at nothing to get things done.December 30, 2020 2:03 pm at 2:03 pm #1933606GoldilocksParticipant
Greatest President since ObamaDecember 30, 2020 2:04 pm at 2:04 pm #1933616yaakov doeParticipant
The 21st century PT BarnumDecember 30, 2020 2:05 pm at 2:05 pm #1933625smerelParticipant
A guy with an incredible ability to make people go nuts, either over him or against him.December 30, 2020 3:03 pm at 3:03 pm #1933668
Expressed like a peasant, accomplished like a bossDecember 30, 2020 3:03 pm at 3:03 pm #1933669
For the average Israeli:
Good ol’ Uncle Donald.December 30, 2020 3:49 pm at 3:49 pm #1933691
A Shliach Hashem.December 30, 2020 3:49 pm at 3:49 pm #1933693RatingStheRumpusParticipant
He’s a conversational virusDecember 30, 2020 3:49 pm at 3:49 pm #1933703emes nisht shekerParticipant
A populist conman.
A man who benefitted as few did from loopholes in the tax law and did nothing as President to rectify that inequity.December 30, 2020 4:17 pm at 4:17 pm #1933728
To ujm: You posted twice. Are you being paid for your posts?December 30, 2020 4:44 pm at 4:44 pm #1933740CuriosityParticipant
He brought to light the biggest pandemic in history – millions of undiagnosed cases of the severe mental and spiritual degenerative disease known as Leftism.December 30, 2020 4:55 pm at 4:55 pm #1933751
Do you know that rightism extreme is also a mental and spiritual degeneratve disease which leads to hatred and anti-semitism?December 30, 2020 4:55 pm at 4:55 pm #1933742
To huju: The Ribono Shel Olam rewards me for expressing his H Hakoras Hatov on His children’s behalf.December 30, 2020 5:02 pm at 5:02 pm #1933756
a successful (lucky) baby who should have stayed far far away from his current job.December 30, 2020 5:05 pm at 5:05 pm #1933769
otoh: the man who saved USA from Hillary (then made us consider just how terrible she really is).December 30, 2020 5:12 pm at 5:12 pm #1933772CTLAWYERParticipant
Trump is an adulterer, grifter, deadbeat, racist, sexist, opportunistic thief.December 30, 2020 9:03 pm at 9:03 pm #1933875Amil ZolaParticipant
“A wonderful president, who stopped at nothing to get things done.” Yup he made it a habit to ignore the constitution whenever possible.December 31, 2020 2:14 am at 2:14 am #1933922
Reb Eliezer, nope, not narcissim, because to somewhat quote John Kruse’ description of Trump, many people with ADHD, because of their distractibility, often jump quickly from one to another of their thoughts, fears, concerns and joys, and so, when they enter conversation with another person, they often feel intense pressure to articulate what they are thinking at the moment, because they know that their hold on any particular thought is tenuous, and as a result, they’re unable to step outside of this flow and remember some of the niceties of social discourse, which is why they are often perceived as self-absorbed, brusque, and inconsiderate because of the way they communicate.December 31, 2020 2:17 am at 2:17 am #1933939
P.S. Reb Eliezer, if you believe in being dan l’kaf zechus, then read Kruse’ article at drjohnkruse. This isn’t to say Trump hasn’t had many flawed actions, such as vis-a-vis the Kurds, or not attending to the Pollards’ situation earlier. Nevertheless, anyone should realize that it’s been a vendetta against him from squat, whether Russia, impeachment, xenophobia.
IMO, the Deep State strategy for fast-tracking the vaccine was to PREMEDITATIVELY have all their bases covered, using Trump as scapegoat EITHER way. One flip of the coin was the story-line about “Xenophobic Racism” (as much as they shouted Russia Collusion). And they would have continued with that label forever, had he not caved in. And in the next phase of their premeditated plan, the other flip of the coin was the oh so pat story-line that Trump was responsible for the death of so many Americans with Covid. Which led to his fast-tracking the vax. The Deep State have mastered propaganda, as well as knowing how to manipulate peoples’ weaknesses.December 31, 2020 8:38 am at 8:38 am #1934045
Trump only cares for himself and the proof is in the pudding. Senator McConnell does his bidding, even though they might lose the Georgia runoff, by withholding the $2000 COVID relief bill if the poison pill conditions are not met.December 31, 2020 9:53 am at 9:53 am #1934047
To ujm: Thank you for your answer. Is it the complete answer? In particular, are you paid any money, directly or indirectly?December 31, 2020 9:56 am at 9:56 am #1934051GadolhadorahParticipant
A candid summary would result in immediate suspension, and likely expulsion from the CR, so invoking my rarely used level of restraint,I respectfully decline to offer my views on the Trumpkopf’s bizzare performance and mediocre legacy. And a goiyeshe “Shana Tovah” to all those who have disagreed with me and a plea for mechilah if I have offended your right wing sensibilities.December 31, 2020 1:06 pm at 1:06 pm #1934067
To huju: You’re welcome. It is the complete answer.December 31, 2020 3:25 pm at 3:25 pm #1934095
remember Donald’s preferred code word secret service should use for him? (end of 2nd debate)
“humble”December 31, 2020 3:30 pm at 3:30 pm #1934118
ywnjudy, ADHD does not require this kind of behavior. My son was diagnosed but never behaved so despicably. He is considered very creative and finished college in three years. Trump has been diagnosed by others with NPD – Narcissistic Personal Disorder.January 1, 2021 12:41 am at 12:41 am #1934399Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
Reb E, I think all Presidents (and just candidates) have NPD, it does not detract from what they achieve. I don’t think ADHD is prevalent among Presidents.
ADHD is not lack of attention. As I understand it, “normal” person activates one area of the brain in response to a stimulus, an “ADHD” person activates multiple areas at the same time.
Many jobs require first type – pilots, surgeons, school principals. Others, like your son and like a lot of very creative people, do well in jobs that require combining multiple pieces of information, questioning the tasks they are given instead of following instructions they were given.
As most people are not creative, they are annoyed by more creative ones and trying to medicate or beat them into submission. If you show a page of Bavli to a psychologist, I bet Bavli will be given ritalin and told to go learn Shulchan Oruch like everyone else.January 1, 2021 7:47 am at 7:47 am #1934410
Why are you picking on ujm there were other posters (including ones on your side) that posted more than onceJanuary 1, 2021 8:56 am at 8:56 am #1934416
To coffee addict: I am “not picking” on ujm. I have asked him/her, many times, in many places, whether he/she is paid for the posts. My reference to his/her 2 posts here was to point out that he/she has not answered my question.
I have asked the same question of certain other posters, at least one of whom stopped posting after my repeated inquiries, though I do not know whether my inquiries had anything to do with his/her cessation of posting.January 1, 2021 9:43 am at 9:43 am #1934434
What makes you think he’s being paid per post more than Reb eliezer or even myself
Anyways why would someone pay someone else just to post (unless they’re paid by Yeshiva world)January 1, 2021 9:47 am at 9:47 am #1934442🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
I was wondering that as well. I thought he just meant it as an insulting comment but after the third time, and now this response, I’m intrigued. Huju, is it possible someone is being paid for this? And is it possible you could possibly scare them off?January 1, 2021 10:47 am at 10:47 am #1934457
To MadeAliyah: Your comment implies that the average Israeli is no different than Huey, Dewey and Louie, three cartoon ducks.January 1, 2021 10:47 am at 10:47 am #1934456
To Syag Lchochm: I thought it was well established that there are people – generally businesses, trade associations, politicians and political groups – who are paid for posts in support of a particular point of view. I think that in some cases, the payers also write the posts, and in other cases, the paid posters write the posts. The paid posters are sometimes called “influencers,” and are paid for their posts, and also paid for the number of followers they have.
As for my being scary enough to make them stop? Well, not without a picture of my face.January 1, 2021 1:27 pm at 1:27 pm #1934511
“The paid posters are sometimes called “influencers,” and are paid for their posts, and also paid for the number of followers they have.”
That works in Facebook/Instagram not in the CR where you can’t have followers and where you hide behind a SN
Believe me, no one gets “influenced” in the CR (just ask joe 😜)January 1, 2021 2:11 pm at 2:11 pm #1934517
I am an elderly person who thinks experience leads to knowledge, also had great rabbeim in the yeshivas, so I enjoy sharing it with others.January 2, 2021 6:49 pm at 6:49 pm #1934572January 2, 2021 10:03 pm at 10:03 pm #1934670lakewhutParticipant
A great president and friend of the Jews and the State if IsraelJanuary 3, 2021 12:13 pm at 12:13 pm #1934821
If Trump is so good to the Jews, why did he not stand up strongly against white supremacists which encourages them by seeing that they have a friend in the president?January 4, 2021 2:39 am at 2:39 am #1935039
Alway_Ask_Qs, you say ADHD isn’t much prevalent among presidents, but IMO, it sure is with Trump.
Reb Eliezer, more likely, Trump has been MISdiagnosed by spiteful biased others with an axe to grind. As for the rest of what you stated, did you take into account nurture (not just nature)? IMO, the reason many believe the media re: his so-called NPD, is due to a combo of his ADHD nature =and= Narc-Nurture. During his formative and prime years, he probably associated with a good number of true narcs, so its inevitable that it rubbed off, and he learned to mimick the sharks so as to be able to navigate them. (Like the story by Chaim Walder, about the boy in the [warsaw??] ghetto who learned to mimick nazi’s, and then actually enacted a nazi in real-life, thereby being able to help many fellow Jews. That was one fascinating story!
FYI, i’m acquainted with two ADHD people, both of whom are very much like Trump. Of course there are differences, such, that casual observers might not recognize the similarities. That’s because one is a chassidic teen boy who never learned much English, and the other is a conservative-Jewish woman who used to hobnob with rough/rowdy blue-collar types.
Both of them are tough cookies and behave alot like narcs (sounding off with self-focus, while not letting others get a word in edgewise, and frenzying when contradicted or interrupted, but they’re NOT true narcs as explained in my previous post). True narcs are calculating and deliberative, resorting to manipulations such as gaslighting, whereas ADHD’s tend to shoot from the hip instinctively or intuitively. People get easily deceived into judging people based on their cultural style, despite that their basic teva is really different than how their style makes them appear.
Finally, if you believe that “m’galglin zechus al y’dei zakai” – then shouldn’t you also believe that Trump, who pardoned Rubashkin, has a fair enough amount of “zakai” within him? And to pre-empt the “C” claim, i again emphasize that i don’t at all hold him responsible for the Covid, but rather consider him a victim of the machinations of the true Covid culprits, i.e. the Deep State and its henchmen.
All this doesn’t mean i’m not utterly upset by Trump AND rabbonim pushing the vaccine. Going along with Gates? For crying out loud.January 4, 2021 12:00 pm at 12:00 pm #1935135
Wait a minute so if Biden has a stuttering problem you can’t make fun of him or call him out but if trump has ADHD you can make fun of him?January 4, 2021 4:35 pm at 4:35 pm #1935210
ADHD does not make NPD.January 4, 2021 5:11 pm at 5:11 pm #1935215
To Reb Eliezer: Of what is NPD an abbreviation? (And, yes, that is the proper way to say or write my question.)January 4, 2021 5:48 pm at 5:48 pm #1935222
Narcisistic Personal Disorder (NPD)January 4, 2021 6:34 pm at 6:34 pm #1935265
A stuttering doesn’t make you forget things and make
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