August 5, 2017 11:56 pm at 11:56 pm #1332934
Why do goyim have a Sweet 16?
And why at 16 rather than a Sweet 15, Sweet 14 or Sweet 17?
And why do they only have it for their girls but not their boys?August 6, 2017 7:09 am at 7:09 am #1333025jakobParticipant
better to not even know the reason(s) or get involved with curiosity. its a goyish thing that yidden should not do although its not a christian religious thingAugust 6, 2017 10:51 am at 10:51 am #1333066hujuParticipant
Joseph: Why not ask some goyim? Nobody here can give you anything but uninformed speculation.August 6, 2017 11:41 am at 11:41 am #1333084
Better than the bitter 16 some people have as people berate them for having an age divisible by four.August 6, 2017 11:42 am at 11:42 am #1333088akupermaParticipant
As for why there is no similar party for boys among the goyim, YWN “censorship” (good taste) rules preclude a discussion . Among Jews, where entering manhood involves reaching new levels of Torah and Mitsvos, we make a party when boys turn 13.August 6, 2017 11:42 am at 11:42 am #1333087akupermaParticipant
I suspect it had to do with the age of consent (the age at which a woman is allowed to marry, and to consent to intimate relations). Among Jews, that age is 12 (for girls) and we often make a fuss about it – even that under Dina Malchusa Dina we do hold that way, de facto. The fact that in most states the age in now 18 (younger girls have to get permission, often from a judge) is irrelevant.August 6, 2017 11:43 am at 11:43 am #1333119
huju, I try avoiding goyim where possible.August 6, 2017 4:06 pm at 4:06 pm #1333250
akuperma, the age of consent in the US has traditionally been lower than 16. In New York the youngest age for marriage was 14 until a few months ago. In some other states it’s still 14 and younger.August 6, 2017 5:56 pm at 5:56 pm #1333283lesschumrasParticipant
Joseph, then why do you care?August 6, 2017 9:42 pm at 9:42 pm #1333322hujuParticipant
To Joseph: See the fifth post for an example of the uninformed speculation about which I warned you.August 6, 2017 10:33 pm at 10:33 pm #1333333
It’s a debut into Society.August 7, 2017 12:37 am at 12:37 am #1333345MRS PLONYParticipant
Some Latin American cultures have a ‘Quincianera’ celebrating a girl turning 15. The Sweet 16 is just a fun party.August 7, 2017 6:33 am at 6:33 am #1333370NeutiquamErroParticipant
Akuperma is correct. This is really not a pleasant topic.August 7, 2017 2:54 pm at 2:54 pm #1333710ColumbiaGrad17Participant
How about we stop using the term goyim as a whole? It clearly possesses a significant, negative connotation to a group of people who have done you no harm.August 7, 2017 2:57 pm at 2:57 pm #1333720MenoParticipant
How about we stop using the term goyim as a whole? It clearly possesses a significant, negative connotation to a group of people who have done you no harm.
Why would it be worse than any term referring to a person who isn’t Jewish?August 7, 2017 2:57 pm at 2:57 pm #1333722
It has negative connotations for very good reasons. And they most certainly have done us very much harm over the last several thousand years right through the current times.August 7, 2017 3:09 pm at 3:09 pm #1333728
Joseph, who are “they” specifically?August 7, 2017 3:22 pm at 3:22 pm #1333732ColumbiaGrad17Participant
Meno: Not all words are created equal, regardless if they define the same type of person.
Joseph: Yes, because the billions upon billions of non-Jews who have existed throughout history, have all harmed you personally.August 7, 2017 3:24 pm at 3:24 pm #1333739
ColumbiaGrad, of all the words there are, this one is comparatively neutral.August 7, 2017 3:27 pm at 3:27 pm #1333741
If they lifted a pinky against any of my ancestors, or against any of Acheinu Bnei Yisroel throughout history, yes they most certainly have harmed me personally.August 7, 2017 3:27 pm at 3:27 pm #1333742MenoParticipant
Not all words are created equal, regardless if they define the same type of person
Beautifully said. It really doesn’t answer my question though.August 9, 2017 7:52 pm at 7:52 pm #1335397☢️ Rand0m3x 🎲Participant
Wikipedia: Even if it is a small party, the main purpose of the party is to celebrate the person becoming “older” and entering a different stage of their life. Typically this is the last big birthday party a teenager would have.
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