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    YW Moderator-42
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    We said long tachanun today for the first time in over a month. It was very inspiring. Sometimes we need a break from something for a while in order to realize how special it is.

    #1151698

    popa_bar_abba
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    I try to always go to a bris on yom haatzmaut. It reminds me that despite the zionists, Hashem still has a bris with us.

    #1151699

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Would you have said long tachanun even if it fell out on Wednesday?

    #1151700

    YW Moderator-42
    Moderator

    We say long tachanun on Mondays and Thursdays except on days when there is no tachanun such as yomim tovim, all of Nissan, and if there is a bris.

    #1151701

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Reportedly, the Chazon Ish said tachanun even when there was a bris, l’hotzi milibom.

    #1151702

    takahmamash
    Participant

    We said Hallel today for the first time since Rosh Chodesh. It was very inspiring.

    #1151703

    golfer
    Participant

    I had heard that too, DY.

    It made me curious.

    Do you know from a reliable source that it’s true?

    #1151704

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    #1151705

    golfer
    Participant

    Thanks DY.

    So it’s true.

    #1151706

    147
    Participant

    the Chazon Ish said tachanun He also was exceedingly adamant that every eligible voter must vote at Israeli Elections, unlike some other influence-rs.

    I will resume Tachanun after Yom ha’Atzmaut, and re-suspend Tachanun come Yom Yerusholayim. But just for the record:- Both Tachanun & Hallel come from the very same book of Tehillim, 1 being Chapter 6, and the other being chapters 113-118.

    #1151707

    Little Froggie
    Participant

    Did Ben Gurion say tachanun?

    #1151708

    ItcheSrulik
    Member

    Glad you got to say it. I’ll have to wait a few more days.

    #1151709

    147
    Participant

    We recite Tachnun only once this week, and at that:- Long Tachnun, but no short Tachnun this week. Sunday & Tuesday mornings, we utilize the same book of Tehillim, but reciting Hallel instead of Tachnun.

    #1151710

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    the shul i davened in actually didn’t say tachnun on monday either

    shmuel hanavi’s yahrtzeit

    addtionally the reason we don’t say tachnun on beis sivan is because it’s in between rosh chodesh and shlosha yimei hagbalah

    therefore one shouldn’t say tachnun on erev rosh chodesh, it’s in between yom yerushalayim and rosh chodesh

    #1151711

    Sam2
    Participant

    ca: Some wonder about that, actually. I don’t think anyone doesn’t say it but it’s discussed by the DL Poskim.

    #1151712

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    well the shul i davened in didnt

    #1151713

    screwdriverdelight
    Participant

    ca: ????? isn’t said on ?’ ???? because hashem told moshe to prepare ??? ????? for ??? ????.

    #1151714

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    sdd,

    why would that be a reason not to say tachnun?

    the gemara in taanis brings up this reason as days not to fast

    #1151715

    screwdriverdelight
    Participant
    #1151716

    147
    Participant

    Tachanun is resuming tomorrow Wednesday morning Sivvon 9th. … Actually it shall be the 1st regular Tachnun since Friday morning Iyyor 26th, since last week Tachnun was only recited once on Monday morning Iyyor 29th, and that was the long Tachnun, Sunday being Yom Yerusholayim, and Monday afternoon thru today, being Rosh Chodesh followed by Yom haMeyuchos followed by Shelosho Yemai Hagbolo followed by Schowu’os followed by Isru Chag, but tomorrow morning the party is over, and other than Shabbos & Rosh Chodesh, no more omission of Tachnun until Assoro b’Ov followed by Tu b’Ov.

    #1151717

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    sdd,

    i going to need to look it up in an artscroll, i don’t remember where off the top of my head

    147,

    unless you resume tachnun on the 14th

    #1151718

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    i finally had a chance to look it up!

    it’s in taanis daf yud ches

    it doesnt say it specifically for beis sivan, i extrapolated it for beis sivan and like i said it was days not to fast (or make a eulogy)

    #1151719

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Bump

    #1151720

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    The shul I usually daven in didn’t say tachnun today

    I gave up trying

    #1151721

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    We said tachanun with a brocha.

    #1151722

    charliehall
    Participant

    I don’t say Tachanun on Yom HaAtzmaut. Don’t make sense to say it after Hallel.

    I visited the congregation in Madrid Spain. They never recite Tachanun on Mondays or Thursdays. I have never found another community with this minhag.

    #1151723

    popa_bar_abba
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    I don’t say Tachanun on Yom HaAtzmaut. Don’t make sense to say it after Hallel.

    Agree, if you were saying both, I’d think it would go before.

    #1151724

    zahavasdad
    Participant

    What wasnt Eicha supposed to be said today?

    #1151725

    Sam2
    Participant

    I said Tachanun, half Hallel without a Brachah, full Hallel without a Brachah, full Hallel with a Bracha, Kinnos, Selichos, Eichah, and Shir Hashirim twice just to be Yotzei Kol Hadei’os.

    #1151726

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    You weren’t yotzei the shittah to not say Hallel.

    #1151727

    Avram in MD
    Participant

    He forgot to mention that he said “Baruch Shem” a bunch of times and then went to a later minyan that doesn’t say Hallel.

    🙂

    #1151728

    Sam2
    Participant

    I started learning 8 Perakim of Tehillim a day a few weeks ago so that today’s Perakim were included in Hallel and I had Kavanah that if the Halachah is like those who don’t say Hallel then I was just doing it L’shem Talmud Torah.

    #1151730

    Meno
    Participant

    Ben Gurion’s shittah was to not say hallel or tachanun. Many people do the same today.

    #1151731

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    I’ll follow the Chazon Ish over Ben Gurion, thank you.

    #1151732

    Sam2
    Participant

    Meno: That is said as a joke, usually, to represent an opinion that there is enough Simcha to nullify Tachanun but that Hallel is inappropriate. Ben Gurion didn’t have an actual “Shittah”.

    #1151733

    147
    Participant

    Agree, if you were saying both, I’d think it would go before. 2 separate reasons to be Makdim Tachanun to Hsllel:-

    1) Perek 6 in Tehillim precedes Perek 113-118, and if read in Serugin {wrong order} probably not Yotzei.

    2) Todir veShe’Eino Todir:- Todir Kodem.

    #1151734

    mw13
    Participant

    Ben Gurion’s minhag was no tallis and teffilin, no shachris, and no God. Not a minhag I would suggest following…

    #1151735

    Sam2
    Participant

    mw13: Of course. That’s why it’s a joke.

    #1151736

    mw13
    Participant

    Yes, I figured. But I find the joke to be in bad taste; I don’t like the suggestion that we should allow non-observant individuals to influence how we practice our religion, even as a joke.

    #1151737

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Doesn’t bother me.

    #1151738

    147
    Participant

    Compared to Obama, Ben Gurion was a far better person.

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