Taking a knee

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  • #1624691

    Loshenhora
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    In South Africa at a zionist school 2
    Fifteen year olds “took a knee”
    The school first condemned the
    action, then withdrew.
    What is the world coming to next
    Freedom of speech in schools will
    include shouting out the answers
    in exams,demonstrating one
    Is dissatisfied with the syllabus
    How mad have we become?

    #1624822

    Loshenhora
    Participant

    Sorry it was during Hatikvah in a
    Ultra zionist school

    #1624830

    Loshenhora
    Participant

    Sorry it was during Hatikvah in
    An ultra zionist school

    #1624843

    Neville ChaimBerlin
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    Not sure we’re getting all the details. When frum yidden end up having to go to zionist schools because they’re forced to based on where they live, I think it’s pretty common to avoid taking part in the religious-Zionist activities.

    Were they doing it for religious reasons or political reasons to be like the NFL players?

    #1624861

    Loshenhora
    Participant

    They were doing it for political
    reasons
    However when a parent chooses a
    School they and the children have
    To respect the ethos
    Or move

    #1625073

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Why should they not have freedom of speech, other than the slippery slope argument?

    #1625091

    MrSarahLevine613
    Participant

    Because we often “forfeit” our freedom of speech or bargain it away. When we work in a company — “freedom of speech” is not protected – not only because obviously the “freedom of speech” is protected (as you stated) only from governmental action — but because we make a deal with the employer. I will give you a job and you will not do anything that i believe is against the interests of the company. (Some states do protect employers from being fired because of the employee’s particular views). When you go to a yeshivshe school — you agree to wear a jacket or hat or stockings or flats. You are giving up this “right” in order to gain admission to the school. A student has (and rightfully so — very few “rights” in school).

    #1625122

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    School is mandatory.

    #1625145

    Toi
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    You guys are making a very misinformed hanocho. There is no such idea as free speech being a right, like an actual right, outside of the US where it’s a part of the constitution. In europe, the UK, canada, south africa,etc. there is no such “right” enshrined by law. So this whole thread is dumb, because who gave them the right to take a knee where freedom of speech/expression doesn’t exist?

    #1625198

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Legal rights are not the same as natural rights.

    #1625201

    Loshenhora
    Participant

    When one belongs to a mosque
    and reads aloud from the Torah
    They would be ejected forthwith
    No freedom of speech or
    religion
    Same goes in a shul reading
    the koran
    Pray tell where is the freedom
    Fact is there are limits
    Join a club you sign up for an ethos

    #1625223

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Did they join a club?

    #1625250

    Loshenhora
    Participant

    Absolutely they joined a club
    They ask about your allegiances
    To Zionism at interview
    It’s not called hertzliya for nothing

    #1625355

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Maybe their parents put them in a club.

    #1625669

    apushatayid
    Participant

    The Torah is not a bill of rights.

    #1626148

    Loshenhora
    Participant

    The Torah is a bill of
    rights and wrongs

    #1626187

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Why do you start a new line
    in seemingly
    random places
    within a sentence
    or paragraph?

    #1626221

    WinnieThePooh
    Participant

    RebYidd, he must have had the same English teacher as It Is Time for the Truth

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